Star Wars Legends: Darth Marr

[DaReaperMan]

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Darth Marr

Darth Marr was the Dark Lord of the Sith throughout much of Star Wars: The Old Republic, and served as a leader figure of the Empire until his death.[1][3] Practically nothing is known of Marr's past due to any and all who knew refusing to talk, only that he rose through the ranks of the Sith to...

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...Sorta just want to say "I literally overhauled this from the ground up, not one thing is the same", but that's boring.

• New Quotes
• New image for his model that is officially used for Price of Power
• New Summary
• References in his misc shit
• PnA rebuilt from the ground up, giving Marr what he's shown and the bare basics of Sith and force user shit. And a tabber.
• New scaling to 4-B! Yeah the guy literally fought Revan and is #2 to Darth Jadus on the Dark Council. And The only other time he fought a 4-B he was attacked in the back by Valkorion. Don't really need to say why this guy qualifies for the big boy scaling on a likely, do I?
• Hey look, force user who blitzes other force users while they're looking at him. Speed overhaul.
• LS is like everyone else.
• Stamina overhaul
• Range overhaul
• Lightsaber expanded on in SE
• Overhauled intelligence section
• new Standard Tactics section.

Did that out of boredom.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Looks ******* fantastic man.

 

[LordTracer]

Now this is a profile worthy of one of the best Sith Lords.

Personally, I would make him straight up 4-B (or downscale to High 4-C+, assuming that Revan is baseline), I don’t think the 5-B stats are necessary. But aside from that and the Class K calc not being evaluated yet, I think the new profile is fantastic.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Now this is a profile worthy of one of the best Sith Lords.

Personally, I would make him straight up 4-B (or downscale to High 4-C+, assuming that Revan is baseline), I don’t think the 5-B stats are necessary. But aside from that and the Class K calc not being evaluated yet, I think the new profile is fantastic.

Honestly the reason I put a likely there is because he fought Revan with like 7 or 8 people backing him up, and the other interaction he has with a 4-B is getting one-shot while he's distracted.

Basically, giving myself wiggle room to deflect and say "4-B isn't guarenteed tho"

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Based DaReaper saving VSBW. Agree

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

He's missing a Key for being a Force Ghost though later in the expansions.

 

[DaReaperMan]

He's missing a Key for being a Force Ghost though later in the expansions.

You mean the key he never fights shit in and just flaps his jaw?

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Gotta love to see Old Republic getting some updates!

Some notes as someone who's played WAY too much of the game.

• Marr has more confirmed force abilities thanks to being a temporary companion. Ones that he has that aren't mentioned are Force Crush, Dark Tempest, and a few healing options and the like. Here's a full list but if you want me to just go into the game and get some on-screen examples I'd be down.
• If you want sound files for anything, I'd be down to make some (Shouldn't be too hard to get the quote for his last stand)
• As the most cunning of all the Sith, he should have mention of Darth Jadus in his intelligence section who was responsible for the Imperial Intelligence network and made it the largest espionage organization in all the galaxy.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Mind Manipulation, Madness Manipulation (Type 2), Memory Manipulation, Perception Manipulation and Illusion Creation (As an incredibly powerful force user, Darth Marr is almost entirely immune the workings of standard Sith and Jedi mental manipulations, and is even immune to the manipulations of Vitiate)

That's why I wanted a better explanation.

Although I'm more canon-oriented, canon and Legends still share quotes about how the mind trick seems to only influence the weak-minded, and this seems to be treated as a weakness to the mind trick on the wiki rather than a resistance. Even in Luke's Legends profile, which gets the most attention, this isn't present, so I'd like an explanation as to why this wouldn't be a weakness to the mind trick in Legends.

 

[DaReaperMan]

• If you want sound files for anything, I'd be down to make some (Shouldn't be too hard to get the quote for his last stand)

Last stand is sort of the only quote you CAN get. The other two are from the Encyclopedia and Price of Power respectively

• As the most cunning of all the Sith, he should have mention of Darth Jadus in his intelligence section who was responsible for the Imperial Intelligence network and made it the largest espionage organization in all the galaxy.

There's a difference between cunning and being a spymaster, which is why Jadus wasn't mentioned.

I'll add the extra force powers now.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

You mean the key he never fights shit in and just flaps his jaw?

Didn't he help out in the Vitiate's mind thing with Satelle? Could have sworn he did. If nothing else he should still be able to fight as one seeing as Old Man Obi-Wan could in The Force Unleashed.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Based DaReaper saving VSBW

Hey I helped with 50%+ of the P&A

 

[DaReaperMan]

That's why I wanted a better explanation.

Although I'm more canon-oriented, canon and Legends still share quotes about how the mind trick seems to only influence the weak-minded, and this seems to be treated as a weakness to the mind trick on the wiki rather than a resistance. Even in Luke's Legends profile, which gets the most attention, this isn't present, so I'd like an explanation as to why this wouldn't be a weakness to the mind trick in Legends.

I assume mind control goes above mind tricks lol

Didn't he help out in the Vitiate's mind thing with Satelle? Could have sworn he did.

in her mindscape. With like three dozen other ******* with him.

If nothing else he should still be able to fight as one seeing as Old Man Obi-Wan could in The Force Unleashed.

You mean the one that's--

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I assume mind control goes above mind tricks lol

You know, could you at least explain it in the section? Because, like, Vitiate's profile is the standard bad profile that doesn't explain anything. And the reference is a 298-page book.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Last stand is sort of the only quote you CAN get. The other two are from the Encyclopedia and Price of Power respectively

That I'm aware of lol, I just meant for any other profiles involving Old Republic.

There's a difference between cunning and being a spymaster, which is why Jadus wasn't mentioned.

Cunning is rather explicit for dealing in deceit or evasion, while it isn't enough to warrant everything Jadus has it is to a point of comparison since that is the empires primary section for deceit and evasion. If the guy known for faking his death, manipulating various networks, and is considered a possible suspect for orchestrating an entire war just because he still exists isn't considered the most cunning person on the team, that says a lot about the other guy.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

You mean the one that's--

Okay that's fair but Ajunta Pall could fight as a Force Ghost in KotOR and he was also a Sith, albeit a conflicted one that could be redeemed.

 

[DaReaperMan]

You know, could you at least explain it in the section? Because, like, Vitiate's profile is the standard bad profile that doesn't explain anything. And the reference is a 298-page book.

done

That I'm aware of lol, I just meant for any other profiles involving Old Republic.

I'll eventually make a Revan profile and a Jadus profile. I actually have a Not at all done sandbox for the latter

Cunning is rather explicit for dealing in deceit or evasion, while it isn't enough to warrant everything Jadus has it is to a point of comparison since that is the empires primary section for deceit and evasion. If the guy known for faking his death, manipulating various networks, and is considered a possible suspect for orchestrating an entire war just because he still exists isn't considered the most cunning person on the team, that says a lot about the other guy.

eh, sure.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Okay that's fair but Ajunta Pall could fight as a Force Ghost in KotOR and he was also a Sith, albeit a conflicted one that could be redeemed.

Ajunta Pall was literally an extreme circumstance lmfao

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I'll eventually make a Revan profile and a Jadus profile. I actually have a Not at all done sandbox for the latter

An excuse to play Imperial Agent again? Count me in! It'll be a nice detour for when I post another Lupin update and have to argue why making everyone 6-C+ isn't a result of my growing insanity. I'll get the Darth Marr clip later, downloading that game takes a while lol.

 

[DaReaperMan]

An excuse to play Imperial Agent again? Count me in! It'll be a nice detour for when I post another Lupin update and have to argue why making everyone 6-C+ isn't a result of my growing insanity. I'll get the Darth Marr clip later, downloading that game takes a while lol.

Jadus does stuff outside of Agent (thanks, new update...) but I doubt he'll have anything quotable.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ajunta Pall was literally an extreme circumstance lmfao

Was he? Admittedly my memory is a bit fuzzy on that game since I haven't played it in like six years.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Just add border template in POWER & ABILITIES section so it will not stick with AP. And all set.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Was he? Admittedly my memory is a bit fuzzy on that game since I haven't played it in like six years.

IIRC yeah, they were in his Tomb. Sith tend to have more power there.

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Jadus does stuff outside of Agent (thanks, new update...) but I doubt he'll have anything quotable.

If I find anything cool, I'll let ya know.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Since there are a lot of people here (where were you in the general discussion?)

When I passed the general Force Powers present in Starkiller's profile to Marr at Reaper's request, I posted them on a neutral Imgur. So you can basically copy and paste more than half of this into other Jedi/Sith profiles.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

IIRC yeah, they were in his Tomb. Sith tend to have more power there.

Okay, fair enough. Does Ajunta have a profile? If he does and that's not on it then that's lame.

 

[LordTracer]

Honestly the reason I put a likely there is because he fought Revan with like 7 or 8 people backing him up, and the other interaction he has with a 4-B is getting one-shot while he's distracted.

Basically, giving myself wiggle room to deflect and say "4-B isn't guarenteed tho"

I feel like downscaling to High 4-C+ would cover that, but fair enough

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Hey I helped with 50%+ of the P&A

Based Phsccarvalho

 

[Phsccarvalho]

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