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Spike the Devilman vs Tambourine.

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Spike. Tambourine is overconfident and most likely knows the gap in power so he would underestimate him and then get obliterated by his Devilmite Beam as a result.
 
It takes some charging time to charge that beam and it can be evaded. Tambourine is likely faster than Akkuman, so he can just dodge and proceed to one-shot.
 
Checking out this video, the charge up time for the attack (from when the Devilman puts his fingers to his temples) seems to be 8-14 seconds. It takes about 8 to fire for the warrior, and 14 the second time it is used on Goku. I am not counting the first time it is used on Goku because the story Roshi tells interrupts the whole thing, and the series has a bad way of using time and the trope "talking is a free action".
 
Spike has the Devilmite Beam, an attack that can oneshot any character who does not have a completely pure heart and cannot survive their heart being destroyed. The only drawback in this match is that it takes 8-14 seconds to charge up and it can be dodged. I know that he is no match for Tambourine in a fair fight, but I am wondering if he can get the attack off and hit Tambourine with it before Tambourine kills him. Both of them can fly. Tambourine is faster than Spike. Tambourine does not know about the attack and is overconfident. The attack moves slowly enough that Tambourine could easily dodge it if he wanted to and it was fired from a distance. Spike is powerful enough that he should be able to take several blows from Tambourine before dying. Looking at their profiles, do you think Spike can survive long enough and manage to get the attack off? Or do you think that Tambourine will kill him before he gets the chance to use his attack?
 
Also Spike using his beam and one shotting anyone is NLF when he hasn't demonstrated his ability on anyone of Tambourine's level.
 
In the context of one's own verse, especially since the whole "more ki means hax resistence" thing wasn't introduced up until Z, it typically doesn't work to push that button
 
General Blue's paralysis did not work on Tao Pai Pai.

Master Roshi dying while trying to seal King Piccolo just because he was that strong is another example of ki interfering with hax before Z.
 
@ AKM sama: Roshi didn't die while trying to seal King Piccolo away because of the power gap. He died because he missed. In Super, we clearly see that it would work on beings far stronger than the user. It could have stopped Zamasu if Goku hadn't forgotten the sealing talisman.

This is not a NLF. I know that the Devilmite Beam wouldn't work on the likes of Cell or Buu since they can regenerate. It also wouldn't work on Zamasu or Garlic Jr since they are immortal. It wouldn't work on 19 since he has no heart, and it wouldn't work on Zeno since he's pure hearted.

Akira Toriyama was once asked if the Devilmite Beam would work on Z villains, and his answer was that they probably wouldn't be hit because of their speed at that point in the series.

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t2093292-devilmite-beam-kill-frieza/

Note: Someone misinterpreted the quote as meaning higher ki = hax resistence, but someone then pointed out what Toriyama actually meant.

Tambourine doesn't have the speed that the Z villains have, so Devilman landing a hit on Tambourine with it seems somewhat plausible to me.
 
"Roshi didn't die while trying to seal King Piccolo away because of the power gap. He died because he missed."

Except he died because of the power gap. Just like Roshi's master died even when he was successful.

"In Super, we clearly see that it would work on beings far stronger than the user."

And? Doesn't mean it will work on everybody when we clearly know that greater ki interferes with it. I am not saying that just because someone is stronger than his opponent he will no sell his hax. I am saying that sufficient enough ki interferes with hax and for the Mafuba, that ki limit is very high. A Mafuba by a High 4-C can seal a 3-A and that's all we know. We can't assume it can seal Low 2-C or 2-Cs.

Now regarding the Devilmite Beam, we have never seen him successfully using it on anyone of Tambourine's level, so until then it's all guesswork.
 
No. Speed is not equalized. I want to determine how it would go if such a confrontation happened in the show. They are both Hypersonic+ though. Even the youth restored King Piccolo (who was obviously considerably faster than Tambourine) was only Hypersonic+, so the speed difference isn't that big. Spike only needs 8-14 seconds to charge his beam. Tambourine is overconfident, and he does not know about the move, though I don't know if he would be cocky enough to try and tank it.
 
Spike could potentially hax stomp, but without speed equalization, Tamborine oneshots due to being almost 30x stronger and much faster, meaning he likely hits first. Leaning towards Tamborine then.
 
Well, Tambourine is definitely stronger and faster than Spike, but Spike wouldn't be oneshotted. Gira took several blows from Tambourine before dying as you can see in their fight here. Keep in mind that Giran is way weaker than either of them. Of course, you could argue that Tambourine was playing around, but than, he does that with ALL of the fighters, so he would do that with Spike too.
 
Tamborine was probably toying with Giran. Remember that he killed Krillin with a single kick.
 
Yeah, but wouldn't he toy with Spike too?

The outcome comes down to these questions: 1: Would Tambourine toy with Spike? 2: Would Tambourine be overconfident enough to try and tank the Devilmite Beam? 3: Would Spike be stupid enough to brag about his beam or would he keep it a secret? 4: Would Spike be able to get 8-14 seconds? 5: Could Spike survive a blow or two?
 
Tamborine toys with enemies he doesn't consider much of a threat. Goku and Krillin got really far in the tournament and was serious about them, but he more so toyed with Yamcha because Yamcha was stomped by Tien and already had a broken leg. Devil Man is rather famous and he probably already heard the rumors about his Devil Mite Beam, so he may actually consider him a threat.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Tamborine toys with enemies he doesn't consider much of a threat. Goku and Krillin got really far in the tournament and was serious about them, but he more so toyed with Yamcha because Yamcha was stomped by Tien and already had a broken leg. Devil Man is rather famous and he probably already heard the rumors about his Devil Mite Beam, so he may actually consider him a threat.
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He died before he was even a full day old, I doubt he heard of Devilman before dying.
 
This is in regards to if he had confronted Devilman because of his being a martial artist. His information was shown to be in the registry of martial artists Tambourine stole, though I doubt that would include information on his Devilmite Beam. The Devilmite Beam is a killing technique, so Devilman wouldn't have used that in the tournaments. The registry probably just gives the name and location of the martial artists. I don't think it includes their techniques. Tambourine did not know about Giran's Merry Go Round Gum, as he asked Giran what it was when he used it on him. Giran used his gum in the tournament, so if the registry included info on their techniques, Tambourine should have known what the gum was for.
 
Tambournine probably wouldn't know about the beam, and Spike is a lot smarter than Tambourine. Tambourine probably wouldn't one-shot Spike, considering he didn't consider Yamcha to be a threat, and Yamcha at this point is considerably stronger than Spike. If Spike could land the blow, and I'm betting he could, Tambourine would die. Voting for Spike.
 
In fairness, most of the latter villains would probably be too fast for him to hit. It also wouldn't work on 19 (has no heart), Gero (no heart), Garlic Jr (immortal), Zamasu (immortal and pure hearted), or Black (pure hearted). It would also take a while for Frieza to die from it, as Revival of F shows he can live for a while in pieces.

Tambourine is at a level where Spike could potentially manage, however.
 
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