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(ps I do want to add Luke cage or a non amped she hulk isn’t stronger than Spider-Man and the thing. Spider-Man has better lifting feats and general strength feats as does the thing) he beats a carnage amped silver surfer
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The Thing you mean the Fantastic Four one? He has a lot of Planet level feats, consistently trade blows with Hulk and such characters.
I remember a fight between Spider-Man and The Thing, Spidey was amped and the max he could do was stagger him.
I agree that he’s stronger than what we currently rate him, but the comics make it clear that they’re from two different level of power
Haven't read this comics, but if legitimate, this is most likely an outlier/Plot-Induced Stupidity. Plus, we have rules for scaling to characters like Silver Surferhe beats a carnage amped silver surfer
he is on the same tier as the thing
Spidey was amped, not Thing.Actually in the fight the thing was amped not Spider-Man
Can I see the comic you were talking about because I can bet you he wasn’tWe discuss stuff here not on Discord.
Spidey was amped, not Thing.
That's why we have a whole page dedicated to the rules for powerscaling Marvel and DC ComicsThere is something I want to suggest about Marvel and Dc, a character can't be upgraded unless if they have feat (s) on that level along with consistent proofs of fight Characters on that level or if the character has consistent proofs or statements.
Afaik Spider-Man is depicted as much weaker than characters of this caliber more often than not, to the point of being unable to harm them at all.
Since this would screw up the scaling for much weaker characters (Kraven, Tombstone, Hammerhead, ect) I'd personally be against upgrading him to those levels.
Karate kid of Dc comics was 2-C for fighting Pre crisis Kryptonians
Tfw we need a page to advice people to use their common sense and not wank.That's why we have a whole page dedicated to the rules for powerscaling Marvel and DC Comics
Exactly my pointKarate Kid is made to be ridiculous like that so I don't see any problem.
Tfw we need a page to advice people to use their common sense and not wank.
This the problem with in Marvel and Dc. Anyone can fight anyone and do anything. Like the time Karate kid of Dc comics was 2-C for fighting Pre crisis Kryptonians
He is generally lower than Thing's level Character anything more than that is an outlier.
There is something I want to suggest about Marvel and Dc, a character can't be upgraded unless if they have feat (s) on that level along with consistent proofs of fight Characters on that level or if the character has consistent proofs or statements.
He does which is why I am bringing this up h I it’s hard to communicate on vs battle but I can tell you guys would hear me out which I appreciate I have tons of Spider-Man feats where he isn’t amped to prove it discord is a lot easier for me to communicate bambu was the one who actually helped me calculate a couple most of the things lifting feats and they were all lower than Spider-Man daily bugle featThat's why we have a whole page dedicated to the rules for powerscaling Marvel and DC Comics
I don’t think the thing is planet level and definitely not Spider-Man anyone below regular hulk and Thor aren’t planet levelBro really thinks Spider-Man is Planet level
That's what powerscaling does to people
Im not trying to wank just showing how Spider-Man is since he has tons of feats to prove itExactly my point
Punching someone isn't the same as hurting them. None of these Hulk scans show Hulk getting HARMED by Spider-Man. And even that's not enough if Spidey isn't outright trading blows, going toe-to-toe with and taking genuine hits from Hulk.That’s not totally true because he does hurt him in the comic
So happy I can do this now@KingTempest feel free to close this whenever you feel like.