Speedrunning demon hunting (Dante vs Neon White)

[AnonymousStandUser]

Rules

• Speed is equalised
• Dante is in his 1st key
• Fight takes place in CLAIR DE LUNE
• SBA for the rest

“You’re not slacking are ya ?”:

“Is it because I’m the best ?”:

“JUDGEM-” Inconclusive:

 

[Delusionaltx2]

wow actual dante matchup and not fraudte

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Yeah no this is a stomp in dantes favor

Neon white doesn't seem to have anything for AE + he resists basically all the abilities on his pf.

Dante on the other hand has like multi-layered conceptual dura neg that's attached to his normal attacks + layered mid godly regen neg which would just neg his healing

edit: ur having dante start in dt so he has passive madness hax making this a bigger stomp

This is a blatant stomp someone should close this

 

[Random-Helper323]

This looks like it's meant to be Netflix's Nante.

• That lame quote is from the Netflix show
• No key is being specified
• OP says he starts in full DT even though the only 8-C key canon Dante has is a key that doesn't have DT
• Canon Dante stomps

Meanwhile the Netflix version is only 8-C in DT. This match seems to have been intended to be for the Netflix adaptation of the character.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

The quote from netflix makes it seem this was intended to be Nante instead and the guy probably linked Dante by mistake.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

That lame quote is from the Netflix show, no key is being specified, and the OP says he starts in full DT even though the only 8-C key canon Dante has is a key that literally doesn't have DT. In addition, canon Dante stomps.

Meanwhile the Netflix version is only 8-C in DT. This match seems to have been intended to be for the Netflix adaptation of the character.

The quote from netflix makes it seem this was intended to be Nante instead and the guy probably linked Dante by mistake.

Fixed OP and the tags

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Thanks. Now I leave.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

This looks like it's meant to be Netflix Not Dante.

• That lame quote is from the Netflix show
• No key is being specified
• OP says he starts in full DT even though the only 8-C key canon Dante has is a key that doesn't have DT
• Canon Dante stomps

Meanwhile the Netflix version is only 8-C in DT. This match seems to have been intended to be for the Netflix adaptation of the character.

Oh then mb then

 

[Random-Helper323]

Oh then mb then

You didn't do anything wrong at all. The real Dante's profile was the one linked and the real series was the one tagged. You even correctly pointed out that the real Dante stomps. It's just that the OP seems to be intending to use the Netflix guy.

Sadly, there's a chance the OP thinks the Netflix version is the only version...

 

[Jerry59]

Fight takes place in CLAIR DE LUNE

V2 supermurder kicks in to beat wacky deadweight nante and then princess carries Neon White from the hit game Neon White into marriage because she's tier 7.

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

I was gonna use the real Dante, in his first key, but my only defence for Neon White in that MU is that Low Tier demon physiology and Sparda Heritage is filled with abilities that Dante doesn’t do or has only done once

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

Fixed OP and the tags

Also didn’t know that Netflix Dante actually has a tag now

Also I guess I forgot to link the right page, I posted this thread late at night and went to sleep afterwards

 

[Random-Helper323]

I was gonna use the real Dante, in his first key, but my only defence for Neon White in that MU is that Low Tier demon physiology and Sparda Heritage is filled with abilities that Dante doesn’t do or has only done once

That explains things. Fight becomes a bit of a stomp though.

Honestly, I wondered if the treating the two characters interchangeably meant either that you thought the show was canon or worse yet was the only thing.

Also didn’t know that Netflix Dante actually has a tag now

Also I guess I forgot to link the right page, I posted this thread late at night and went to sleep afterwards

One person put in quite a lot of work on the Netflix series for the Wiki. It's better than having people think it's canon to the real series, I suppose.

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

Honestly, I wondered if the treating the two characters interchangeably meant either that you thought the show was canon or worse yet was the only thing.

Nah I just wanted to have a fair and interesting fight that doesn’t devolve into “Dante has X ability, it’s a stomp”. I would’ve use canon Dante but like I said before.

I was gonna use the real Dante, in his first key, but my only defence for Neon White in that MU is that Low Tier demon physiology and Sparda Heritage is filled with abilities that Dante doesn’t do or has only done once

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I was gonna use the real Dante, in his first key, but my only defence for Neon White in that MU is that Low Tier demon physiology and Sparda Heritage is filled with abilities that Dante doesn’t do or has only done once

Ehhh, that changes things.

Dante first key is kind of a mess because it mixes Volume 1 and the manga which is wrong and should be eventually fixed. Also, Tony isn't a demon per se so he is mostly a haxless 8C, while Volume 1 Dante just is regaining his powers and probably can't use all the hax bs stuff besides the fear hax and that's literally just in a bloodlusted/super angry state.

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

Dante first key is kind of a mess because it mixes Volume 1 and the manga which is wrong and should be eventually fixed. Also, Tony isn't a demon per se so he is mostly a haxless 8C, while Volume 1 Dante just is regaining his powers and probably can't use all the hax bs stuff besides the fear hax and that's literally just in a bloodlusted/super angry state.

True but it’s a part of Dante’s first key, so I don’t think we can ignore it even though I feel it’s right, unless we can ignore it then I’m more than happy to change this to canon Dante (1st key) vs Neon White

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

We can ignore it and we probably should ignore it until Crim fixes the profile (if he ever comes back...) it just won't be added cuz current profiles and all that stuff-

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

We can ignore it and we probably should ignore it until Crim fixes the profile (if he ever comes back...) it just won't be added cuz current profiles and all that stuff-

Well in that case… I’m changing this to Dante (1st key) vs Neon White, the actual matchup I wanted to make

 

[Random-Helper323]

Even this version of Dante has deconstruction via his guns, power null and concept hax, has a minor fear aura, and has combat mastery bolstered by his information analysis, analytical prediction and instinctive reaction, and all backed up by Mid Regeneration and a wall of resistances. Not a bad setup for an 8-C.

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

Even this version of Dante has deconstruction via his guns, power null and concept hax, has a minor fear aura, and has combat mastery bolstered by his information analysis, analytical prediction and instinctive reaction, and all backed up by Mid Regeneration and a wall of resistances. Not a bad setup for an 8-C.

Ok so...
Power null, concept hax and fear aura from Dante could be countered by White's Blessed nature, he is essentially protected by God and the Book of Life (It's vague and pretty much cope from me but this is what is seemingly portrayed in the game).
Deconstruction from Dante's guns/ bullets should be countered by White's Attack Reflection from his Katana.
Information analysis, analytical prediction and instinctive reaction are really good but I'd say that White's combat skill and intelligence make up for it, also I believe White's accelerated development would allow him get creative on how to deal with Dante
Mid regen, yeah White has doesn't have much to deal to with it but he could technically win if he knock Dante out for an hour and with BooF in play he could do that (If it weren't for Dante's instinctive reaction)

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Even this version of Dante has deconstruction via his guns, power null and concept hax, has a minor fear aura, and has combat mastery bolstered by his information analysis, analytical prediction and instinctive reaction, and all backed up by Mid Regeneration and a wall of resistances. Not a bad setup for an 8-C.

Tony doesn't have Ebony & Ivory, nor power null and his concept hax is pretty damn limited, not to mention he lacks said fear aura (it's only for Dante).

Tony has information analysis, analytical prediction, instinctive reaction, AD/RE and Mid level regeneration. At this key he kinda lacks resistances, he more so adapts and gains them after being hit with them (the nexus, demons fear hax, etc)


edit: we doing Tony or Dante (volume 1)?

 

[AnonymousStandUser]

edit: we doing Tony or Dante (volume 1)?

I'm using Dante (volume 1), feels disingenuous to use Tony Redgrave only

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I'm using Dante (volume 1), feels disingenuous to use Tony Redgrave only

I see

In that case...

Ok so...
Power null, concept hax and fear aura from Dante could be countered by White's Blessed nature, he is essentially protected by God and the Book of Life (It's vague and pretty much cope from me but this is what is seemingly portrayed in the game).
Deconstruction from Dante's guns/ bullets should be countered by White's Attack Reflection from his Katana.
Information analysis, analytical prediction and instinctive reaction are really good but I'd say that White's combat skill and intelligence make up for it, also I believe White's accelerated development would allow him get creative on how to deal with Dante
Mid regen, yeah White has doesn't have much to deal to with it but he could technically win if he knock Dante out for an hour and with BooF in play he could do that (If it weren't for Dante's instinctive reaction)

Ehh im lazy to argue rn but concept hax is something Dante doesn't use because it's related to names.

Also Dante will fold white in skill

 

[Random-Helper323]

Tony doesn't have Ebony & Ivory, nor power null and his concept hax is pretty damn limited, not to mention he lacks said fear aura (it's only for Dante).

That key needs some serious work then, because those abilities are all listed for Tony. Honestly, can we even differentiate and restrict them when we're literally talking about a key that doesn't exist? Evidently that first key is Volume 1 Dante, and Tony doesn't have a key at all. I'm not sure we can treat them as different versions when they're listed as the same key with no distinction.

Tony has information analysis, analytical prediction, instinctive reaction, AD/RE and Mid level regeneration. At this key he kinda lacks resistances, he more so adapts and gains them after being hit with them (the nexus, demons fear hax, etc)

Wow, sounds almost weak enough to fight the Netflix version...

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Wow, sounds almost weak enough to fight the Netflix version...

This guy literally adapts to the demon world bs in mere seconds, develops regen neg after 1 attack that failed to kill, can fight living darkness, can instantly detect attack patterns and predict moves, his body can move and react before he does. The guy can also talk the whole underworld into being nice, not killing and having a set of rules, morals and honor at 16 y/o.

He literally folds Netflix Dante and moves on to stomp the netflix demon world.

 

[Random-Helper323]

This guy literally adapts to the demon world bs in mere seconds, develops regen neg after 1 attack that failed to kill, can fight living darkness, can instantly detect attack patterns and predict moves, his body can move and react before he does. The guy can also talk the whole underworld into being nice, not killing and having a set of rules, morals and honor at 16 y/o.

I guess, but are those adaptations which are part of his transition to his next key even okay to use in his Tony state? Clearly he can adapt to those things in battle, but still.

He literally folds Netflix Dante and moves on to stomp the Netflix demon world.

What about Netflix's Mary?

It's funny how stomping that verse feels so... unimpressive... That must be how Alucard and Dio feel soloing Twilight for the thousandth time.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I guess, but are those adaptations which are part of his transition to his next key even okay to use in his Tony state? Clearly he can adapt to those things in battle, but still.

He does them when he is still Tony, he doesn't become Dante until the very last act of the novel and by then Tony had already adapted to like 3 nexus and several demonic stuff.

The one denvers has, the bank with the oz group and the hospital are all things he encounters as Tony and overcomes as Tony. The last nexus (in Bobby's cellar) is when he is Dante but at that point he was already a demon so it kinda meh.

What about Netflix's Mary?

It's funny how stomping that verse feels so... unimpressive... That must be how Alucard and Dio feel soloing Twilight for the thousandth time.

I mean, it's a haxless 8C verse, not really that hard or impressive.