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Space Survival

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DontTalkDT said:
Maybe we should just make a space survival page. The ability is reasonably common and since the circumstances are not obvious to many people having a page that explains it properly could help.
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DarkDragonMedeus said:
Considering Underwater breathing is a page, Space Survival sounds legit.
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ImmortalDread said:
What is the difference between that and self-sustenance type 1? Seems to me a redundant addition, except if there are clear objective, distinct practicalities.
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DontTalkDT said:
Self-sustenance type 1 is about being able to survive without needing to breathe. That would be one part of space survival, but not the whole thing.

In addition to that it would include:
  1. A resistance to low pressure environments (near vacuums). For a normal human the fluids on the bodies surface would boil away and various things would probably rupture. Your lungs would probably take damage and stuff.
  2. A resistance to cold (if the character travels through deep space for long). This in particular requires some explanation. Many people think it would be high level cold resistance as deep space is close to absolute zero. However, due to the lack of heat transfer via conduction and convection, the actual heat loss is rather minor. Hence the cold resistance in turn is very minor (and could be achieved through various means, like the body producing slightly more body heat than that of a normal person). It is minor enough that most fictional cold attacks would easily overcome it. Putting explanations regarding that on a single page that everyone then links is easier than enforcing that every profile, which lists cold resistance for space reasons, gives the appropriate explanation on the profile.
  3. Probably resistance to space radiation?
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DarkGrath said:
I've been asked to provide input here.

I quite like DT's suggestion of Space Survival being added as an ability. Surviving without any kind of support in space is a common power in fiction, yet it entails a lot of independent things simultaneously. DT elaborated on this point earlier, but a person who was capable of surviving for an extended period in space would have to account for factors like being able to survive in a low-pressure environment, large temperature variance, and radiation. Rather than splitting up all the factors that surviving in space entails into a wide range of abilities for every relevant profile, having one page for the general ability to survive in space would be quite handy.
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I think that this would be a useful and uncontroversial addition to our wiki. Is somebody here willing to create a draft for this new powers and abilities page for us?
 
I'm also onboard with a space survival page
 
I would say that if the character isn't in space long enough to succumb to low temperatures as they would in real life, there needs to be a depiction of icing/cold being felt (see Magic School Bus and Iron Man depiction)

If not then, I lean towards removing Cold Resist.
 
Firestorm808 said:
I would say that if the character isn't in space long enough to succumb to low temperatures as they would in real life, there needs to be a depiction of icing/cold being felt (see Magic School Bus and Iron Man depiction)

If not then, I lean towards removing Cold Resist.
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How you do feel about DontTalk’s proposal for space survival page?
DontTalkDT said:
Self-sustenance type 1 is about being able to survive without needing to breathe. That would be one part of space survival, but not the whole thing.

In addition to that it would include:
  1. A resistance to low pressure environments (near vacuums). For a normal human the fluids on the bodies surface would boil away and various things would probably rupture. Your lungs would probably take damage and stuff.
  2. A resistance to cold (if the character travels through deep space for long). This in particular requires some explanation. Many people think it would be high level cold resistance as deep space is close to absolute zero. However, due to the lack of heat transfer via conduction and convection, the actual heat loss is rather minor. Hence the cold resistance in turn is very minor (and could be achieved through various means, like the body producing slightly more body heat than that of a normal person). It is minor enough that most fictional cold attacks would easily overcome it. Putting explanations regarding that on a single page that everyone then links is easier than enforcing that every profile, which lists cold resistance for space reasons, gives the appropriate explanation on the profile.
  3. Probably resistance to space radiation?
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@Hypertornado099 Okay, I'm finally done clearing out Discord links. What do I need to include in my space survival draft?
 
IdiosyncraticLawyer said:
@Hypertornado099 Okay, I'm finally done clearing out Discord links. What do I need to include in my space survival draft?
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  • Resistance to space radiation if one has no no ill effects after for surviving in space for a period of time
  • Self Sustenance
  • A note explaining why it does not grant resistance to cold temperatures

That's all I can think of for now
 
IdiosyncraticLawyer said:
@Antvasima @DontTalkDT @Hypertornado099 Late, but I finally got around to doing this. Is this draft acceptable?
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I think so, yes.
Hypertornado099 said:
This article I mentioned in the OP could be added as a reference for the last sentence, though I'm not sure if we have ever used references in a P&A page
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Hypertornado099 said:
The guy who made it is an astrophysicist and the chief scientist of a research center and museum at Ohio. Is that enough to prove he's reliable enough? If not, then I guess we can't add any references unless a staff member has something else
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I think that this also seems fine.
 
Hypertornado099 said:
The guy who made it is an astrophysicist and the chief scientist of a research center and museum at Ohio. Is that enough to prove he's reliable enough? If not, then I guess we can't add any references unless a staff member has something else
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Okay, I suppose it's fine then, as then it fulfils a subject-matter expert exception to the general rule.
Antvasima said:
I think so, yes.


I think that this also seems fine.
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I made the page. This thread can be closed now.
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Space Survival

Space Survival is the power to survive unassisted in the hostile environment of outer space for extended periods. Resistance to Radiation Manipulation: Without an atmosphere to filter it out, space harbors immense amounts of cosmic radiation, so any character capable of enduring it would have to...
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Thank you to everybody who helped out here. 🙏🙂
 
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