Sora (Kingdom Hearts) Vs D (Vampire Hunter D)

[Robo432343]

Sora
VS
D

 

[Robo432343]

WILL D'S PASSIVE GAY ABILITY WORK

 

[Bobsican]

why
...
probably

 

[Robo432343]

why
...
probably

aight gg then

 

[Bobsican]

Actually, does D has type 2 info manip? The page doesn't mention the type, so by default it'd be low-ended to Type 1, if so... eh, Sora still has no wincon while D still has a few.

 

[Ikelaggan]

(The Akashic Records hold information over everything that was, would, is, could, and will be.)
If your adding the causality and plot Manipulation it has then it definitely hits type 2 on the dot.

 

[Robo432343]

sora stomps now

 

[Bobsican]

...Necro

 

[Robo432343]

...Necro

looking at D's profile reminded me of this thread
If D wins here, doesn't that mean he can take soras place in smurf list

 

[Bobsican]

Is he a smurf now or something? I recall D is 5-D while Sora is 6-D

 

[Robo432343]

Is he a smurf now or something? I recall D is 5-D while Sora is 6-D

Yeah D is a 5D smurf
but i thought D wins with his passive hax or something

 

[Bobsican]

D and Sora don't share any tier below tier 1 (for smurf list purposes), and Sora stomps on tier 1 (passive 6-D Fate hax, layered 6-D Conceptual EE and whatever, High-Godly type 8 Immortality, etc), so uh...

 

[Robo432343]

D and Sora don't share any tier below tier 1 (for smurf list purposes), and Sora stomps on tier 1 (passive 6-D Fate hax, layered 6-D Conceptual EE and whatever, High-Godly type 8 Immortality, etc), so uh...

D and Sora share tier 1 (5D vs 6D)??
i thought D would win coz sora gets passively fear, paralysis and empathic haxxed
or plot hax
coz soras fate hax just stops him from dying while D's passive hax doesn't really kill

 

[Bobsican]

Yes, but a 5-D fighting a 6-D is like a 2-A fighting a Low 1-C, the gap is that high even if compatible for the lists out of Low 1-C including 5-D and 6-D.
It also prevents permanent incaps, and he resists those abilities (bar the plot hax, which I'm sure isn't passive, so the fate manip covers it) too.

 

[Robo432343]

Yes, but a 5-D fighting a 6-D is like a 2-A fighting a Low 1-C, the gap is that high even if compatible for the lists out of Low 1-C including 5-D and 6-D.
It also prevents permanent incaps, and he resists those abilities (bar the plot hax, which I'm sure isn't passive, so the fate manip covers it) too.

what if a 5D haxstomps someone who is 6D in smurf

Sora would need to passively activate bind block for example to not get paralyzed as well as the other stuff that he uses to stop getting empathic haxed, fear haxed etc

i thought the fate manip would be useless because D's aura hax doesnt even kill, sora would just be standing there without dying

 

[Bobsican]

Would still be rated lower as much we didn't make Archie Sonic above Doctor Strange in tier 2 out of Sonic having passive Low 1-C hax that'd prevent him from summoning High 1-B characters or whatever at the time. It's a top strongests list, after all, not a glorified wiki-wide scaling chain within the tier.

Those resistance abilities are passive, so uh...

 

[Robo432343]

Would still be rated lower as much we didn't make Archie Sonic above Doctor Strange in tier 2 out of Sonic having passive Low 1-C hax that'd prevent him from summoning High 1-B characters or whatever at the time.

Those resistance abilities are passive, so uh...

ah ok
does sora resist that conceptually

 

[Robo432343]

bump

 

[Bobsican]

ah ok
does sora resist that conceptually

His powers come from his heart, so yes.

 

[Robo432343]

His powers come from his heart, so yes.

man
can sora interact with layered abstract existence

 

[Bobsican]

Uh... how it's layered? In terms of NPI required or what?

 

[Robo432343]

Uh... how it's layered? In terms of NPI required or what?

ah im talking about sacred ancestor as my last option
basically D can interact with abstract objects but cant interact with sacred ancestor

 

[Bobsican]

Sora can delete and remake the cosmology on a 6-D scale with the X-Blade, so long term it wouldn't be a incon.

 

[Robo432343]

Sora can delete and remake the cosmology on a 6-D scale with the X-Blade, so long term it wouldn't be a incon.

can he interact with nep type 2

 

[Bobsican]

Currently no, but NEP, like any other ability, is limited by dimensionality.

 

[Hypertornado099]

Sora can delete and remake the cosmology on a 6-D scale with the X-Blade, so long term it wouldn't be a incon.

So Sora would in character delete the cosmology?

 

[The_Pink_God]

D's hax are 6-D last time I checked

 

[Bobsican]

D's hax are 6-D last time I checked

They are 5-D AFAIK

So Sora would in character delete the cosmology?

More like restructure it on that scale, which practically has the same effect without collateral damage.

 

[Robo432343]

D's hax are 6-D last time I checked

nah there is a 6D-7D upgrade for him on topstrongestwiki which D's profile is based on but no one is upgrading him on vsbw

 

[Robo432343]

More like restructure it on that scale, which practically has the same effect without collateral damage.

bro i dont think sora would go that far just to do that

 

[Georredannea15]

Didn't Sora have few layered 6-D hax? This looks like a stomps

 

[Robo432343]

Didn't Sora have few layered 6-D hax? This looks like a stomps

i think its close to being a stomp but im arguing incon if hes fighting sacred ancestor

 

[Bobsican]

bro i dont think sora would go that far just to do that

Considering this'd probably go on indefinitely he could just end the battle with that given the lack of other options.

 

[Georredannea15]

i think its close to being a stomp but im arguing incon if hes fighting sacred ancestor

I see. Then good luck man

 

[Georredannea15]

D and Sora don't share any tier below tier 1 (for smurf list purposes), and Sora stomps on tier 1 (passive 6-D Fate hax, layered 6-D Conceptual EE and whatever, High-Godly type 8 Immortality, etc), so uh...

I have a question. Does Sora have conceptual manipulation or which types of concepts can he delete? Because I didn't see it in the profile.

 

[Bobsican]

I have a question. Does Sora have conceptual manipulation or which types of concepts can he delete? Because I didn't see it in the profile.

Type 1 from this

 

[Robo432343]

Considering this'd probably go on indefinitely he could just end the battle with that given the lack of other options.

man thats something xehanort would do, not sora
how would sora even know recreating the cosmology is gonna do anything

but even if he is about do that, sacred ancestor would know everything about that so he could somewhat prevent the nuke from happening

 

[Bobsican]

Sora's not someone to let what in his perspective would be an eldritch abomination per SBA to stick around forever if he can change that without deleting absolutely everything. Like, it's quite intuitive for characters to want the X-Blade to change the cosmology as they see fit, but the problem is that because of how the cosmology works, merely using it to remove darkness is asking to erradicate everyone, which wouldn't be the same here.

He can't do much when the 6-D passive fate hax is limiting the options...

 

[Robo432343]

Sora's not someone to let what in his perspective would be an eldritch abomination per SBA to stick around forever if he can change that without deleting absolutely everything. Like, it's quite intuitive for characters to want the X-Blade to change the cosmology as they see fit, but the problem is that because of how the cosmology works, merely using it to remove darkness is asking to erradicate everyone, which wouldn't be the same here.

He can't do much when the 6-D passive fate hax is limiting the options...

sacred ancestor will prevent him from remaking the cosmology by using plot hax

 

[Bobsican]

Eh, plot hax is limited by dimensionality like any ability, it'd have lower priority.