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2-C Super Sonic vs Ultra Instinct Goku
Speed is not equalized.
2-C Super Sonic vs Ultra Instinct Goku
Speed is not equalized.
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Sonic vs Goku
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Goku via instinctive reaction
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This.Errorsaness said:
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Goku is overrated. Goku should be High 3-A at best making Sonic Infinity^Infinity^Infinity times stronger with 4-Dimensional Universial power wheres Goku would be Infinite 3-D.
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immeasurable Speed + Hax Low 2-C > Baseline 2-C
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@Error
Instintive reaction is useless against someone who is infinitely faster than you.
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Goku is scaled from Jiren, who is superior to Infinite Zamasu, who is a living timeline.
Instintive reaction is useless against someone who is infinitely faster than you.
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Goku is scaled from Jiren, who is superior to Infinite Zamasu, who is a living timeline.
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If your using the Infinite speed listing from VS Battles, those feats are questionable and aren't staying there for long because due to not only the Infinite speed revision and the requirement for it, but also the requirement on VS Battles for Super Sonic to reach those depends on how much rage the target has...Seol404 said:
I'm not kidding, I can list the page where it's stated.
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Goku and Hax haven't met
Ough...
Ough...
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So your saying Timeline Zamasu < Beerus (Full Power) =<Jiren at full Power < MUI Goku? I'm not good at Logic tbh.
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Never said Zamasu was equal to Beerus.
Both being low 2-C Ôëá Both being equal.
Both being low 2-C Ôëá Both being equal.
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I never said Low 2-Cs would be equal due to that 5-D Axis Shit
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If your using the Infinite speed listing from VS Battles, those feats are questionable and aren't staying there for long because due to not only the Infinite speed revision and the requirement for it, but also the requirement on VS Battles for Super Sonic to reach those depends on how much rage the target has...
I'm not kidding, I can list the page where it's stated.
Chaos Emeralds are powered by positive thoughts, and here we are using Super Sonic at his peak who can keep up with beings with infinite speed.
I'm not kidding, I can list the page where it's stated.
Chaos Emeralds are powered by positive thoughts, and here we are using Super Sonic at his peak who can keep up with beings with infinite speed.
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Jiren's might vastly surpasses even Top, the second strongest mortal of Universe 11 and a God of Destruction candidate whose training has allowed him to essentially wield said power for additional might. Even more, he was the original choice to be the next Universe 11 Destroyer, but turned it down. Despite this, Whis notes that his power enters the domain of Gods of Destruction, and may have even surpassed it. His power cannot be defeated by a God of Destruction, making him easily one of the strongest warriors in all the multiverse.Uselessnoob245 said:
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Doesn't Sonic have better hax than Goku?
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No and Sonic has Reality Warping and has control over Time via the Chaos Emerald.Seol404 said:
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While he lacks knowledge when it comes to things that aren't related to fighting, Goku is a master of prodigal skill when it comes to martial arts, with years of experience fighting against powerful opponents with a plethora of abilities. His skill when it comes to combat and the usage of ki allows him to replicate other ki-based techniques after seeing them once, and he was the first to realize how much energy the Super Saiyan transformations unnecessarily drained. Despite this drawback, he was the first to master the Super Saiyan state, making it highly efficient. He is a genius in combat and is capable of devising new applications of his techniques on the fly, such as using Kamehameha with his feet. Before adapting to Hit's time stop, he was able to predict the movements he'd make in the 0.1 seconds of frozen time and react properly. In addition, Goku has become the first mortal to master Ultra Instinct, a technique that even the Gods find difficult to learn, relying purely on his muscle memory and something "beyond" instinct to fight, no longer needing to consciously think to do so.Seol404 said:
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How long did it take you to copy-paste that?
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The positive energy that the emeralds gain is from his friends. That means that Super Sonic is only 2-C because of his friends. Without that positive energy, he's weaker than Goku.Uselessnoob245 said:
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Chaos Emerals transform thoughts into power. Sonic just needs H A P P Y T H O U G H T S
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From his friends.Rodri "Dante" said:
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The Egg Wizard wants to have a word with you.
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Chaos Emeralds are powered by positive thoughts, and here we are using Super Sonic at his peak who can keep up with beings with infinite speed.Rodri "Dante" said:
Even so, Goku can act like a madator with Sonic as the bull.
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And what is he going to do? Use outlier manipulation to become as fast as Sonic?
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No, he can dodge Sonic's punches with his instinctive reactions and having far more experience than Sonic.Rodri "Dante" said:
He's 42-44, meanwhile Sonic's only 16 or 17 at the very best.
Sonic can be quite cocky and overconfident, he can't use some of his more advanced moves (such as the Air Dash) as Classic Sonic, using Time Break will, in turn, slow down his own speed as much as everything else around him. Sonic is also incapable of swimming and sinks like a stone in water due to aquaphobia, although he does not demonstrate that fear very often. If Sonic doesn't get his minimum 8 hours of sleep, then his lack of sleep will affect his running.
So Goku either waits for Sonic's super form's time limit to run out or he uses Sonic's cockiness against him.
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I N F I N I T E S P E E D.
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Also experience Ôëá dodging.
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I wish there was a Mario vs Sonic vs Goku but anyway I vote for Sonic I guess
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Hell, just use BFR to remove him from space-time.
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Yep
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No, he is not beyond space-time. Mocking people who would never say that just seems childish.Seol404 said:
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If we are using fanboy edition versions it would be a draw because Both DBZ and Sonic fanbases are equal in power
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That is very unlikely as Sonic is cocky and rarely takes situations seriously unless his friends are caught in the crossfire.Seol404 said:
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