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Sonic High 3-A's into Low 2-C

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Makes sense.

Even though I still think they should all be 2-C via Mephiles downscaling from Generations Shadow since there's no reason for him to be different from his 06 self
 
List of pages affected
Sonic
Shadow
Tails
Knuckles
Silver
Blaze
Omega
Rouge
Cream
Cheese
Dr. Eggman
Metal Sonic
Captain Whisker
Johnny
Metal Sonic 3.0
Egg Wyvern
Egg King
Eggman Nega
Babylon Guardian (Durability)
Espio
Marine
Mephiles
Jet
Wave
Storm
Iblis
Ifrit
SCR-HD
Extreme Gear
Team Sonic
Team Dark
Team Rose
Team Chaotix
Babylon Rogues
Eggman Empire
and the Egg Hawk too, uhh... yeah, that's it. Wait no scratch that last one
 
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List of pages affected
Sonic
Shadow
Tails
Knuckles
Silver
Blaze
Omega
Rouge
Cream
Cheese
Dr. Eggman
Metal Sonic
Captain Whisker
Johnny
Metal Sonic 3.0
Egg Wyvern
Egg King
Eggman Nega
Babylon Guardian
Espio
Marine
Mephiles
Jet
Wave
Storm
Iblis
Ifrit
SCR-HD
Extreme Gear
Team Sonic
Team Dark
Team Rose
Team Chaotix
Babylon Rogues
Eggman Empire
and the Egg Hawk too, uhh... yeah, that's it. Wait no scratch that last one
As per JJ's seemingly perfectly valid argument, Babylon Guardian shouldn't be affected. Low 2-C would only be for the durabillity of his lamp. His AP would be the only thing in the verse to remain High 3-A. Also, I don't get the Egg Hawk joke, id it was one. Lol
 
Someone who hasn't played the game
Does NiGHTS appear at any point in the story or is he just an extra character to use in races?
(I'm not questioning whether NiGHTS is canon, but his appearance in the game is another matter entirely)

I mean, NiGHTS isn't the only guest character
NiGHTS is stated to arrive from Nightopia for this game. Their biography also has stuff from the original NiGHTS game

More stuff can be found here
 
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I'm not knowledgeable on the verse, so I could be wrong, but I don't see a reason this wouldn't be valid.
 
I agree if Nights appeared within the story-mode of the game at any point (i.e. a cutscene). If they don't, then we don't know to what capacity they participated in, or if they ever got canonically hurt/hurt others outside of just gameplay. Which I've been wanting to be less lenient about, since I think that could spiral out of control.
I mean it in the sense that it's at LEAST two universes. I assume Low-Multi is like x2 uni+ at baseline.
Also 2x Uni+ is still Uni+.
 
I agree if Nights appeared within the story-mode of the game at any point (i.e. a cutscene). If they don't, then we don't know to what capacity they participated in, or if they ever got canonically hurt/hurt others outside of just gameplay. Which I've been wanting to be less lenient about, since I think that could spiral out of control.

Also 2x Uni+ is still Uni+.
Ah, I see. I saw "two to a thousand" and figured x2 uni+ was enough.
This upgrade is to uni+. Not low multi
Ah, I misread. I usually attribute 2-C with Low Mulitversal, so I just thought "Oh, Low-Multiversal".
 
NiGHTS is stated to arrive from Nightopia for this game. Their biography also has stuff from the original NiGHTS game

More stuff can be found here
That... doesn't help at all. That's all you write when describing a crossover character if you give them a profile somewhere:
Example: SpongeBob arrives from Bikini Bottom, (+ background)... that's it.
Looking at the blog, the same with Zero Gravity.

The only thing I perhaps see as valid is the board description.

But hey...blue name, my vote doesn't count
 
I agree if Nights appeared within the story-mode of the game at any point (i.e. a cutscene). If they don't, then we don't know to what capacity they participated in, or if they ever got canonically hurt/hurt others outside of just gameplay. Which I've been wanting to be less lenient about, since I think that could spiral out of control.
Shadow, Cream, Rouge don't appear in cutscenes, yet they still scale. The fact that NiGHTS has attacks they can use to harm other contestants should already be enough. Eggman says the EX World Grand Prix is no holds barred (free of restrictions) meaning that anything goes for the participants. NiGHTS should have used their moves at some point given that everyone else can use theirs too. It's only natural for such a competitive event in the Prime World (like Sonic Drift 1 & 2, Sonic R and the rest of the racing games, all of them have offensive aspects).
 
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Shadow, Cream, Rouge don't appear in cutscenes, yet they still scale. The fact that NiGHTS has attacks they can use to harm other contestants should already be enough. Eggman says the EX World Grand Prix is no holds barred (free of restrictions) meaning that anything goes for the participants. NiGHTS should have used their moves at some point given that everyone else can use theirs too. It's only natural for such a competitive event in the Prime World (like Sonic Drift 1 & 2, Sonic R and the rest of the racing games, all of them have offensive aspects).
I figure it's because it's just a given that they're there. But tbh, if their High 3-A rating comes specifically from this game and they never even canonically appear in the story, but rather just as a selectable character, then I'm not sure they should scale to High 3-A either (Until their next canon appearance anyways since they'll inevitably have feats/scaling)
 
I figure it's because it's just a given that they're there. But tbh, if their High 3-A rating comes specifically from this game and they never even canonically appear in the story, but rather just as a selectable character, then I'm not sure they should scale to High 3-A either (Until their next canon appearance anyways since they'll inevitably have feats/scaling)
Yea I'm pretty sure this is essentially exact same issue that fighting games standards brings up. Scaling is a bit iffy.
 
I figure it's because it's just a given that they're there. But tbh, if their High 3-A rating comes specifically from this game and they never even canonically appear in the story, but rather just as a selectable character, then I'm not sure they should scale to High 3-A either (Until their next canon appearance anyways since they'll inevitably have feats/scaling)
That does seem like a concern. I'm not sure if we have the same standards for racing games or not. I'll retract my approval for now while it's discussed.
 
If that's the case then Rouge and Cream need their AP descriptions adjusted to fit which game they start scaling. Rouge starts scaling from Sonic 06, Cream on the other hand..
 
If racing games apply under the fighting games standards, then I agree with the removal of High 3-A for those characters.

Iirc Knuckles, Tails, Amy, and I believe 1 other character needs their Baseline 2-C ends removed via Black Knight scaling and only retain their higher ends unless feats allow.
 
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If racing games apply under the fighting games standards, then I agree with the removal of High 3-A.
High 3-A should still be valid for those that can harm Babylon Guardian, given that the boss fight is a forced interaction between the characters and the boss.
 
Even though I still think they should all be 2-C via Mephiles downscaling from Generations Shadow since there's no reason for him to be different from his 06 self
There's a much less convoluted way to get 2-C scaling
 
I'm sorry if I'm performing necromancy on this post, but, did this ever conclude? I don't think so, but I'm not familiar enough with the site to say.
 
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