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It's multiple things. Perfect Chaos in base is just one of the contributing factors. Super Egg Robot and Secret Rings scaling is the tipping point for actual 2-C Low-Multiversal.
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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ShrekAnakin
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Archie hype in VS really ruined Archie related discourse lol. Well, so did a lot of stuff TBF.
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To me perfect chaos was the most obvious one, bases get stronger
Much later after alot he beats someone he needed super to beat in base. It just...works you know? Now I still feel super sonic would linearly increase in power as well, even if it can get a sort of rage boost from stronger emotions I don't feel like there's a good enough reason for that to vary across so many tiers.
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I don't think it's bull, really. Chaos Emeralds do some wacky stuff. It's done the same in Archie, too. Sonic Advance 3 just does that but without splitting an Emerald and instead uses Chaos Control. Archie also does something similar as well and we know that the Games Emeralds are well within the capability to do the same thing. Even having to be contained in special zones to obtain them in the old games. Just feels like a natural progression.
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Well ya but it's not the emeralds, it split reality into 5 other realitys. Using that to say reality before was the size of 5 realitys actually is a bit far fetched to me
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I agree with that sentiment, though Preboot has much heavier baggage due to KP's involvement
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On a completely other note I like to think the sol Emeralds are the rements of the flames of destruction and that the will of the Sol Emeralds are the rements of the will of the true sun god before being split.
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I don't understand the Archie hype. It's all just a bunch of slop with some hackneyed tropes, messed-up storyline, cringeworthy background elements, and don't get me started on the Knuckles Family Circle or Scourge doing some real funny stuff to someone who was under false-pretenses let's just say. The only hype that's present is them being "strong", yet they didn't do the research for the games and look where we are now. Winning.
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No, for sure. Scourge was an interesting character and had potential, but it was ruined by various factors and he WOULD HAVE had something cool if it were not for the expunging of all Ken Penderisms in the comic globally.
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Do you perfer idw over what came before?
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Yes, but we know Chaos Control is capable of potent reality-warping capability. It was caused BY a Chaos Emerald. ONE Chaos Emerald at that. It isn't that far-fetched to say. Why split Earth into 7 realities at all if they weren't of a certain size? At that point, it's a pointless thing to do otherwise.
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Perfect Chaos upgrade: "Perfection is only found surrounded in Chaos"
Hello y'all, here i am going to prove why Perfect Chaos should scale to the full power of the Chaos Emeralds, as we currently only rate him to 2-C based around him fighting a "baseline" Super Sonic......well, today i will show why Super Sonic at that time WASN'T at baseline power, but rather...
Our destruction god will have its honor back
Edit: DAMN, SHAKE IS TOO MUCH OF A NINJA FOR TO KEEP UP
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Oh definitely. IDW is leagues better. It has none of the weird ish from Archie, its lows are much higher than Archie's lows, and it actually has a fun story too many storylines to keep track of. Also, it doesn't overexplain the world like Archie did.
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Are we talking about sonic prime? A chaos emerald did really do it?
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I don't like explaining origins of the Emeralds, to be real. I think it's way cooler if their origins were just left mysterious and unexplained. Archie did a bad job overexplaining and it caused weird lore to be made.
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Not Sonic Prime. Talking about Sonic Advance 3. ONE Chaos Emerald did this with a simple Chaos Control Machine.
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The 1-A attempt started before the 2-C upgrade though.
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Well I actually really like thinking about it. Well I fo enjoy this explaining for the sol Emeralds and think it would work in universe if it happened any explanation I come to for the chaos emeralds are pretty lack luster
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wait they did that? can you link it?
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Feels like it happened after. There might have been multiple posts about it, so maybe I'm getting wires crossed.
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I don't have the link on me, but you should be able to find it somehow by using the Archie Sonic tags.
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Archie 1-A upgrade had nothing to do with Game Sonic. I think you're too obsessed with Archie. It was amusing at first but chill.
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There doesn't NEED to be an explanation for them. I prefer there NOT to be. Archie tried to explain them and it was bad and cringe. You don't NEED to explain them. Just because there's no reason for them, doesn't mean it's "lackluster". In fact, there's no luster to be had (ironically-enough) because there's hardly one to begin with. The more you explain something, the more it loses its air of mystery and intrigue.
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Again, I don't know the times exactly. I just saw it in the similar threads thing on the whole Games Sonic 2-C Upgrade thing, so I only assumed. I could be wrong and I'll admit to that. Also, I'm more annoyed with Archie stuff. It's all people tend to talk about these days for scaling in other places and it just gets exhausting. This is the only place I can find that isn't full of neanderthals who don't know what they're on about.
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You're the main one who is talking about Archie stuff, just chill out and take a breather or something.
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Cuz the scaling of it and its current treatment over Games Sonic interests me? I'll keep talking about it as much as I so please. It isn't simply people talking about it is the issue, it's moreso the weird bias. That and it was already a point of discussion before you even got here. Sure I was a bit misinformed, but that was more in relation to how it was hard to get 2-C Base Sonic anyway compared to other iterations. Just was mistaken on some info. It's not a big deal.
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I don't need to but I deeply "want" to
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So it begins. The 1C civil war sort of.Perfect Chaos upgrade: "Perfection is only found surrounded in Chaos"
Hello y'all, here i am going to prove why Perfect Chaos should scale to the full power of the Chaos Emeralds, as we currently only rate him to 2-C based around him fighting a "baseline" Super Sonic......well, today i will show why Super Sonic at that time WASN'T at baseline power, but rather...vsbattles.com
Our destruction god will have its honor back
Edit: DAMN, SHAKE IS TOO MUCH OF A NINJA FOR TO KEEP UP
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I mean, that's fine. You can go ahead. Nobody's stopping you, I'm just going over what happened when they WERE explained.
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Son-1C....
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Archie doesn't really have much bias here. In fact, the verse is dead outside of certain supporters so there's no need to fuzz over it.
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I saw some bias in the thread, but I meant more general bias.
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We just need another higher dimension and we got it, please Sonic frontiers 2
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Nah... we need polished gameplay, consistently great characterization and content that wasn't split then padded out to increase game length.
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Lol, nobody reads it is why it often gets wanked as much as it does.
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I will not let you slander Enerfraud like that
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The SA2 Faker meme but instead of "faker" it's "fraud".
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Also that
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So that's why Ky's sword is called that...
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