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Round 1.-Base
Round 2.-Universe Ness.
Round 2.-Universe Ness.
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Son Goku Vs. Ness
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Round 1 Goku stomps him super hard.
Round 2 goes to Ness. A Universal is still (albeit slightly) more powerful than anything Goku has shown thus far, that plus Ness's psychic hax is just too much for Goku to take. I say Ness wins with moderate difficulty.
Round 2 goes to Ness. A Universal is still (albeit slightly) more powerful than anything Goku has shown thus far, that plus Ness's psychic hax is just too much for Goku to take. I say Ness wins with moderate difficulty.
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None actually capability for goku is unknown as of yet, to establish speculation.
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Ness stomps at full power
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I wouldn't call it a stomp for round 2 to be honest, but Ness wins currently.
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Goku will probably win once SSGSS comes into play
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No he wont lol
Ness is universal and insanely faster
Ness is universal and insanely faster
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Well Goku already is nigh-Universe level so SSGSS might just push that envelope all the way through and then some. Though being semi-Omnipresent Ness certaninly has the speed factor over Goku. Universe Ness that is.
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Goku is only multi-galaxy
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At least High Multi-Galaxy level, he'll probably be Universe level by the time he achieves Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
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High Multi-Galaxy. Basically he's standing right on the border between not being universal, and being universal.
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He is technically high- multi galaxy which means he would be about borderline universal.
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Fayt Leingod solos
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I'm sorry? Didn't know this guy, or girl, was involved in this discussion.
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Destroying a space-time continuum isn't the same as physical matter. DB can only affect physical matter which is why they're only 3B and A with that being said:
1.Goku easily
2.Ness wins
1.Goku easily
2.Ness wins
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It says on his profile that 3-A is his highest tier. Unless someone changed it.CHILLVIBEZZ said:
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I meant the Goku is universal stuff I know ness is only 3A anyways
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Alright. I thought you meant Ness was higher.
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Ness turns Goku into a pile of minced meat with his homerun bat.
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I don't understand what base Ness means. If it means early on Ness...against a prime Goku. Nope But if it was base Ness vs a young Kid Goku. It would be a good fight.
Now, Post Awakening Ness vs a Prime Goku. Well lets see here.
Physically and speed wise, Goku would def have the upper hand by a lot. Nonetheless, Ness would be able to create barriers pretty much like Tetsuo Shima would against physical and energy base attacks. (Tetsuo would destroy every one on the dbz universe and take Bulma as his sex slave. Manga Tetsuo is Omniscient) Ness, can counter Goku's speed by either Hypnotizing him or Paralyzing him. Then, any damage received Ness easily could recover. PK Flash can confuse, blind and even mortally hurt Goku, and there is nothing Goku can do to defend himself with. PK Kiai (Rockin) seems to be a powerful Psychokinetic blow or trauma that can compress or combust Goku and nothing Goku does can protect him from such assault. As seen in other fictional stories having Psychokinesis can amplify strength, vision, speed, and reaction and I am sure Ness can do so the same, enough to help him evade certain attacks and counter with his mental abilities. Although truthfully Goku's energy Chi attacks would be devastating, Ness is suppose to be this super smart witty kid and I doubt he would give the chance for Goku to spam those energy attack moves. It would be a very difficult fight, as both too can teleport.
Now, Post Awakening Ness vs a Prime Goku. Well lets see here.
Physically and speed wise, Goku would def have the upper hand by a lot. Nonetheless, Ness would be able to create barriers pretty much like Tetsuo Shima would against physical and energy base attacks. (Tetsuo would destroy every one on the dbz universe and take Bulma as his sex slave. Manga Tetsuo is Omniscient) Ness, can counter Goku's speed by either Hypnotizing him or Paralyzing him. Then, any damage received Ness easily could recover. PK Flash can confuse, blind and even mortally hurt Goku, and there is nothing Goku can do to defend himself with. PK Kiai (Rockin) seems to be a powerful Psychokinetic blow or trauma that can compress or combust Goku and nothing Goku does can protect him from such assault. As seen in other fictional stories having Psychokinesis can amplify strength, vision, speed, and reaction and I am sure Ness can do so the same, enough to help him evade certain attacks and counter with his mental abilities. Although truthfully Goku's energy Chi attacks would be devastating, Ness is suppose to be this super smart witty kid and I doubt he would give the chance for Goku to spam those energy attack moves. It would be a very difficult fight, as both too can teleport.
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Round 1 easily Goku
Round 2 Ness right now but not a stomp
Round 2 Ness right now but not a stomp
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1. Goku insanely easily.
2. Ness stomps. Hard.
2. Ness stomps. Hard.
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it isn't really a stomp for round 2... Ness wins, but not without a fight.ImagoDesattrolante said:
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Why wouldn't it be a stomp?Dragonmasterxyz said:
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well seeing as goku for one is more experienced. ness is not bloodlusted, and since goku is on the borderline of universal/possibly higher, heck super is no where near over yet. plus goku has a lot that will keep him in the game for a while.
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Goku is not Universal- he's Multi Galaxy.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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He's currently standing on the border between not being Universal and being Universal. By Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, I'm pretty sure he'll be Universal, if not High Universal.
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Eh...I don't think it's that big of a gap.The Everlasting said:
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and if he gains the ability to effect space and time. then even hgher.The Everlasting said:
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Eh...I don't think it's that big of a gap.
It can be
It can be
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you don't think it is. but we are pretty confident it is.ImagoDesattrolante said:
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between ssjg and ssgss?ImagoDesattrolante said:
well
as of fnf, goku's base form is called saiyan beyond god, which is more powerful than ssjg goku (when he fought beerus)
and ssgss is essentially saiyan beyond god going super saiyan
so ssgss is over 50 x stronger than ssjg goku
thats pretty much high universal
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Goku has no control of space or time, or cosmic events. Goku although powerful even as a God, only has offensive destructive powers. He is no supernatural being that alters or bends anything. Destruction alone doesnt warrant that. Why are you guys giving him powers beyond the DBZ rules.
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what are DBZ rules? nothing states that DB cannot have powers like this. while non-canon beings like demigra, janemba, mira and others have. heck dbz was able to fracture holes in a dimension by screaming. why are you trying to limit DB when there are no actual limits in place?Psychokineticboy said:
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as of now, goku doesnt have notable hax
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he does have potentially high universal power as ssgss
so, for now he seems to not be good against haxed opponents
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he does have potentially high universal power as ssgss
so, for now he seems to not be good against haxed opponents
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Beyond DBZ rules?Psychokineticboy said:
Buu and Gotenks ripped holes in dimensions just by screaming.
Whis, while limited as of right now, can also travel back in time.
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Whis is still ambigious so he might get much much better haxsI s u-c l o n e said:
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Yes that's why I said as of right now.TISSG7Regrave said:
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Ness r2 due to better abilities
Round 1 is a stomp and shouldn't even be included.
Round 1 is a stomp and shouldn't even be included.
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