Son Goku vs Cloud Strife

[Miles_Romero12]

Round 1 - Buu Saga Goku vs Base Cloud Round 2.- Buu saga Goku vs cloud with limit breaks.

Battle can end on death, incap or sealing.

 

[AquaWaifu]

what are his materia and his equipment?

 

[Miles_Romero12]

I dunno, check his page.

 

[AquaWaifu]

Well if you dont establish what he has in this match-up, since there is no true 'canon' set of materia Cloud generally has, then this match is a stomp since otherwise Im to assume Cloud has access to everything outside of summons. Elemental magic, instant death spells, time manipulation, status buffs and debuffs, transmutation, could turn Goku into a frog...FF7 characters of the main group without pe set limits determined by OPs are extremely versatile.


And given his similar stats in all catergories which do not come from his usage of materia compared to Goku, giving him access to ALL materia outside of summons makes this match A STOMP.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Well, okay.

Round 1-Only swordplay for Cloud.

round 2-Only summons for Cloud, no materia of any other kind.

 

[Akreious]

Any super Saiyan forms, Kaioken, etc. For Goku? Are they both serious or bloodlusted, or simply sparring? Is there a setting for where this takes place?

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Buu Saga Goku has acess to SSJ3.

Blooslusted.

In a random city

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Cloud's kinda a lot stronger, being comparable to Safer Sephiroth at 3 and some change megafoe

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Cloud 2 Golu 0

 

[Stonecoldstunner]

Ugh, speed equalized is so overused on this site.

 

[Stonecoldstunner]

I think Goku still takes this, his energy projection, his reaction time, and he's a martial artist.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Goku 1

Cloud 2

 

[Reppuzan]

@Stonecoldstunner

Cloud is a master swordsman in the same speed tier as Goku and fought the world's greatest swordsman, is so incredibly strong that he can cut someone four times with a single swing. That argument isn't flying that easily.

 

[Blazing_Saiyan]

i think goku has this instant transmission can sense air vibrations to dodge and i think goku can just dish it out more then cloud so im going to have to go for goku

 

[Reppuzan]

@Blazing Saiyan

I have no recollection of this air vibration feat. Plus Cloud has dodged invisible air slashes from Sephiroth and can dish out just as much hurt.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Cloud can dish out far far more. Cloud's 3 MegaFoe. Goku, being extremely, wankingly, generous, is about a KiloFoe.

 

[Blazing_Saiyan]

buu saga in the fight agianst yakon goku said he could feel the air vibrations to tell where he was and he could smell him too

 

[Reppuzan]

@Blazing

Regardless, as Cal pointed out, a single blow from Cloud is over a thousand times stronger than a single attack from Goku.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Erm...Instant Kamehameha?

 

[Reppuzan]

@Miles

Easily tanked due to the power discrepancy.

Solar System level is a very wide tier.

 

[Blazing_Saiyan]

still think goku takes it biggest mustle is not alwas the winner in fights thats my thought and if what you say is true then this match is cansoled due tue stomp

 

[Reppuzan]

@Blazing

Neither is Cloud. He's an amazing swordsman who was deemed worthy of inheriting the legacy of a First-Class SOLDIER, who laid waste to entire armies single-handedly with nothing but a sword and their own strength and skill. He can take on and defeat Sephiroth, the most powerful SOLDIER of all time, and an infamously skilled swordsman who can strike his victims from a distance and strike them multiple times with a single swing.

 

[Blazing_Saiyan]

goku has taken big hits before goku can take anything cloud can dish out i think plus goku has the quicker reactions and combat speed from what i have seen goku wins round 1 round 2 might be tough but goku pulls it by a bit

 

[KuuIchigo]

Cloud via reasons above.

 

[Legion350]

Cloud for the Reppuzan and Cal's reasons. Cloud stomps Goku because he's 1000 times stronger.

 

[Miles_Romero12]

I´ve lost count of the votes.


So i go Goku for Saiyan´s reasons, just to keep this interesting.

 

[Blazing_Saiyan]

from those reason them its a overstomp i think

 

[Miles_Romero12]

Not really, Cloud only has his sword and they are in the same tier. I thought Cloud was only (1) Solar Sytem via scaling from Supernova.

Where did the rest of the "solar systems" come from?

Anyways.

This fight, even if one sided, its valid.

 

[Legion350]

Solar System level has a trillions times gap. Despite them being in the same tier it can still be a stomp.

 

[Blazing_Saiyan]

from the data i know of goku in buu saga was MFTL-MFTL+ in ssj 2 and 3 forms goku can dodge clouds attacks and clouds sommons cant be used here i just see goku pulling this of the istant kamehameha can at least blast cloud high in the air maybe to space and i dont think cload can breath with no air

 

[Blazing_Saiyan]

and cloud resisistance to soul attacks i think ki is different than soul attack so i dont see that kelping him

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Cloud for Rep's and Cal's reasons above

 

[Reppuzan]

@Miles

Cloud is able to fight Sephiroth, who is able to sit in the middle of his own Super Nova without a problem, which is the reason why they're scaled to Solar System level.

 

[Blazing_Saiyan]

and goku can fight buu who can instantly wipe out solar systems

 

[Reppuzan]

@Blazing Saiyan

There's still a 1000x gap between FFVII's feats and Goku's feats here.

 

[Blazing_Saiyan]

how is cloud 1000x stronger faster ect then goku?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Blazing This is the calculation for Sephiroth's Supernova that Cloud is scaled from. Sephiroth can tank this attack without batting an eye, and Cloud can harm him. The result of this calc is just over 3 megaFoe. As Stated by Cal above, being extremely, extremely generous with Goku's rating, he is within the kiloFoe range at the absolute best.

 

[Blazing_Saiyan]

i think goku can hit harder then we think and with gokus faster reaction time i dont see cloud hitting him goku in the buu saga was MFTL+ from the scaleing goku has more stamina to outlast clouds onslaught

 

[Reppuzan]

@Blazing Saiyan

For as long as you're on this site you have to abide by our ratings. Goku's ratings are lower than Cloud's unless you can bring up a calcable feat for Goku during this form that disproves this.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Actually Buu Saga Goku's speed is only MFTL, not MFTL+, but speed is equalized so Goku's higher speed wont matter in this fight.