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Some Relatively Minor 40k Revisions

Being said to stomp a 1-A is not anywhere near justification for high 1-A. With the high 1-As, they'd be tier 0 either without the presence of an actual tier 0 (see Yog Sothoth, Featherine) or have a really minor weakness that in the end is inconsequential but technically disqualifies absolute boundlessness (The law of Identity). Ynnead isn't some supreme god, it's just as of now the strongest one.
 
If it worked like that, most of the 1-As in Lovecraft stories would be high 1-A because of ridiculous degrees of 1-A scaling.
 
All we know about completed Ynnead is that he could curbstomp Slaanesh and that he could contain an entire warp-like realm inside himself due to basically transcending the normal immaterium.

That's it.

It's just enough for "notably superior 1-A in comparison to Chaos".
 
Stomping a 1-A being isn't remotely proof of High 1-A.

The fact that stomping a Low 2-C being isn't proof for 2-C should tell you something.
 
Doesn't the incomplete Ynnead already transcend both The Warp and realspace on a qualitative level? Or am I behind on the times and that bit was removed from his page?

Though if becoming completed actually raises his power and doesn't just give him more abilities, then yeah, I guess High 1-A isn't valid.
 
Incomplete ynnead exists in it's own space outside the warp, but it's not totally transcendent of everything within. Even if it was that's not enough for high 1-A
 
I don't see how transcending both the Warp and realspace is a High 1-A feat. It just means Ynnead is a "stronger" 1-A.
 
ZacharyGrossman273 said:
Yeah like the presence... although why is TOAA tier 0 for being above three 1-As...
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based on statemant like every omnipotent you cant prove onipotence whith scailling coz someone omnipotent can do everything we also know that he is the writer entity
 
TOAA has always been scaled due to his position at the unassailable peak of a hypothetical hierarchy as opposed to scaling to anyone else in the verse.

But this is not the thread for that, obviously.
 
TOAA is Tier 0 for completely different reasons. Like, he's one of the most blatant and traditional Monotheistic Gods in fiction.
 
You don't become tier 0 for being above an arbitrary number of 1-As. But that's not for this thread.
 
Bump. I can always just edit one of the Gods using the current suggestions, and if it looks fine, we'll apply it to the rest.
 
About resistance to matter manipulation

I know the projections aren't made of matter but doesn't it still act like it?

They still get banished if you rip them apart with a chain axe. And there's a bunch of weapons that are meant to slide between molecules or something to ignore durability, and I assume those still cut Daemons just fine.
 
Actually it depends on the author because 40K is like that.

There's books where daemons are intangible save against Psykers and Force Weapons and special bullets.

In others you can just punch them.
 
@Monarch

The lore usually tries to rectify this with the explanation of the daemons being harmed by the act of your defiance against them (or something to this extent. It varies) rather than them just being completely vulnerable to physical harm at all times.

This is why you could punch them or something and potentially inflict damage, but trying to manipulate the matter they're made of wouldn't work, as it's not there. This is also why daemons can just move through walls often times like they're not even there, but are affected when someone tries to strike them with a normal weapon.

Ruinstorm gives a good example of this, where Guilliman and the Lion alone have a better chance against the daemonic forces than Guilliman and the Lion + both their armies, as the symbolic act of the former is so much stronger than the latter.
 
A lot of the warp as a whole is related in great part to thought and belief. The Chaos Gods and other such warp entities were created by emotions and thoughts, and the Orks created their own deities off of their own Orkiness. Its also an explanation for the variance in power of some Daemons.
 
Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion also explains that fighting a daemon on melee wielding a sword is much more effective than shooting one from a difference, specially if you are an Astartes or Custodian. Because the symbolic act of an Angel of Death slaying a daemon is much stronger than the act of a soldier shooting a foe.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion also explains that fighting a daemon on melee wielding a sword is much more effective than shooting one from a difference, specially if you are an Astartes or Custodian. Because the symbolic act of an Angel of Death slaying a daemon is much stronger than the act of a soldier shooting a foe.
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It saddens me that this piece of lore is so ******* cool but like 90% of fans probably couldn't give a shit.
 
I would actually recommend you listening to the Audiobook. Since it has three narrators, one for each of the POV characters.

Also The Carrion Throne is a sudo-prequel and the overall contrast in mood, theme and message in both makes it great.
 
Looks good to me, though the high 1-B justification should be worded as "an infinite dimensional realm of thought and metaphor" rather than "an infinitely dimensional realm of thought and metaphor". You also only seem to have used apostrophes instead of quotes on the later portion.
 
Those were from the previous version of the page. Didn't notice them. I'll fix that, now.

Edit: Done.

For his final key, I wasn't really sure if any versions of Immortality besides 8 and 10 were relevant, but they're there for completion's sake, right now.
 
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