Some Negima/UQ Holder Revisions

[FrenchStephy]

Yeah, I think I will do so (at least I've found Yue's quote).

 

[FrenchStephy]

Well, it seems to be Low 5-B.

 

[Damage3245]

Okay then, in that case we can add that Ialda is Possibly Low 5-B with prep.

I think it was also mentioned in one chapter of UQ Holder than they planned on affecting the solar system in some way but I can't remember which chapter.

 

[John985]

Yes I also remember that they plan to use Phantasmagoria to affect whole solar system. Don't know what chapter as well.

 

[FrenchStephy]

Yeah, don't remember which chapter it was either, but I think they were talking about Ialda's goal which is to cast Cosmo Entelecheia on the whole solar system, or something like that.

 

[AstralKing7]

Low 5B!!? Man that's awesome lol. Can't wait for the future of the series

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Ah, I found it. Have the AP revisions for Touta, Negi, and Ruin been accepted?

 

[John985]

Well the justification of 7-B is base of on Eternal Negi fever. But it was calced in Naruto Forums to be 6-C. So the people who scaled to 7-B is gonna be 6-C.

Well that's how I understand it.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

It looks like the same feat was calced with two different results.

 

[FrenchStephy]

I just noticed that the calc linked on Negi's profile is a corrected version of the 6-C calc currently used here for Rakan.

So we should probably use the values from the newest calc and recalc the Eternal Negi Fever.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

So, we don't know what the AP of Ruin and Touta should be?

Or will they just be 7-B until it's recalced? (Was the original calc incorrect?)

 

[John985]

It seems now Im the one who is confuse.

So is he gonna be 6-C or 7-B?

 

[Litentric_Teon]

That's what I'm trying to figure out. This seems to be a thread that's revising the AP of Negi, Touta, and Ruin, as well as adding various abilities to Negi.

But none of their profiles have been updated. And if neither the 7-B nor the 6-C calc is incorrect, then is there a reason we're using one as opposed to the other?

 

[FrenchStephy]

From what I understand, the problem with the original calc was the method of scaling the distance between the mountain and the tower. The newest uses the official height of the tower.

Either way, the 7-B rating comes from pulverization energy whereas the 6-C uses vaporization. Since we are using vaporization (because of all the steam) we only need to found the correct volume of rock destroyed.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

So is there a new calc that has been accepted that takes into account such?

 

[FrenchStephy]

Well, since I just found out about this like 30 mins ago, that new calc needs to be done lol.

As for applying all the changes, I just wanted to it in one go, that's why none of the profiles were really updated.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Oh, lol.

So, the original calc placing them at 7-B is incorrect? And a new calc needs to be done? Is this correct?

 

[Damage3245]

The original calc was redone and it is now 6-C.

Here it is: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/Eternal_Negi_Fever

 

[FrenchStephy]

Yeah, but Therefir used the volume of the mountain calc'd by ChaosTheory here. But there's another version (made some days after ChaosTheory's one) with another volume here (and iirc OBD used this one instead of the first one)

EDIT: If you want to see the difference, here it is lol: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:FrenchStephy/Eternal_Negi_Fever_(Redux)

 

[FrenchStephy]

So Rakan's feat seems to be High 7-A now. We can now start reworking the scaling of the top tiers, yay.

EDIT: Tried something, tell me what y'all think about this:

Large Town level (Scaling from Incomplete Thousand Thunderbolts and Al-Iskandariya):

• Post-Rakan Training Base Negi, Chachamaru and Ikkyu via Al-Iskandariya, Touta, Karin, Kuromaru etc

Large Town level+ (50% stronger than base Negi):

• Dark Night Form Negi, Magia Erebea Touta?, Base Cutlass?

At least Large Town level+ (Superior to Touta):

• Jinbei, Gengoro, Transformed Cutlass?

At least Large Town level+, likely far higher (Far superior to Transformed Cutlass):

• UQ Holder Base Evangeline

Small City level (2x stronger than Dark Night form Negi):

• Magia Erebea Armament Negi (Around 2200 on Jack's power chart)

At least Small City level

• Kotarou, Kagetarou (Around 3000 on Jack's power chart), Ku Fei?

At least City level (Far superior to Ku Fei):

• Base Tatsumiya, Setsuna, Kaede, Tsukuyomi

At least Mountain level (Far superior to Kaede + Can hurt Raiten Taiso Negi):

• Lifemaker's constructs (Averruncus series, Dynamis etc), Poyo/Zazie?, Half-Demon Tatsumiya?

(At least ?) Large Mountain level (Scaling from the Eternal Negi Fever):

• Post-Rakan Training Raiten Taiso Negi, Grace of Light Karin, Ruin Ishkur, Raiten Taiso Touta, Negima Fate?

At least Large Mountain level, likely Island level (As the Eternal Negi Fever is a casual feat for Jack + Stronger than Fate):

• Post Rebirth Negi, Jack Rakan, Eishun, Albireo, UQ Fate, UQ Magia Erebea Evangeline

At least (Since the asteroid feat is a lowball) Island level (Far superior to Fate):

• Negima Evangeline?, Nagi, Teenager Negi, Ialda

At least Island level, likely higher:

• Negi-Ialda?

 

[FrenchStephy]

I updated the OP, since the whole point of this CRT at first was to bump Negi to 6-C via Jack's Eternal Negi Fever but now everything's changed. So, bump, I guess.

 

[Damage3245]

Negi-Ialda should be At least Island level, possibly Low 5-C with prep.

 

[FrenchStephy]

Pretty sure it was Low 5-B but yeah, you're right.

Do you agree with the rest of the scaling?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

I myself find it alright, but I'd prefer giving a cursory look to the series once more to double check.

 

[Damage3245]

Scaling looks fine to me.

 

[FrenchStephy]

Nice. Actually, I think I've found something concerning UQ characters.

Post-Dana Training Base Touta should be Small City level since he easily overpowered that Morborgran Demon who took the same kind of beating from Agilitas Fulminis Negi in Negima.

Also we could maybe do something with Cutlass' Black of Venus transformation (which make her 4 times stronger), since Gengoro was still able to cut her.

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

That works perfectly well. That said, is there any mention of Morborgran being any stronger after all this decades?

 

[FrenchStephy]

Don't think so. We just saw him destroying pre-dana training Touta and then being defeated by post-training Touta

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Sad, a possibility but seems like not.

 

[FrenchStephy]

Well, if nobody has anything to add, I think we can start applying all the changes.

 

[Antvasima]

I trust Damage3245's sense of judgement, but in the future, do not perform any large scale statistics changes without an evaluation and approval from the administrators.

 

[Damage3245]

Ah, my bad Ant, I forgot that a staff member would be required for changes this big.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. No problem.

 

[FrenchStephy]

Yeah in hindsight it wasn't that smart from me to do it this way, so I apologize.

Also, I think it is okay now to close this thread. And thanks y'all for your help on all of this lol.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. No problem.