Some MonsterVerse revisions

[Apex_Predator_GX]

MonsterVerse needs some small revisions

Spore Mantis feat of crushing bones with its jaw is not 9-B.....That's 9-C. Also due to we don't know how much powerful the Adult Spore Mantises are I think we should remove the 9-A tier and add a '''higher''' as an adult.

Kong will be likely downgraded with this new calc to 9-A

This will downgrade Ramarak too and basically any other titan that scales from Kong.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This all seems fine

 

[Tllmbrg]

Sounds good to me
Btw what feats give them regeneration, stealth mastery and enhanced senses?

 

[Fupdumpthegump]

I agree with the 9-A downgrade (for The mantis and Kong), but 9-B seems fine for at least the adult via sheer size since they grow up to 15 m in length.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Sounds good to me
Btw what feats give them regeneration, stealth mastery and enhanced senses?

Regen is maybe due he regenerated that huge scar in his chest I think

Kong despite his size has been shown be able to be on a place without being noticed by humans or other Titans.

He also sensed the right place where the Skullcrawlers were, maybe due to their smell.

I agree with the 9-A downgrade (for The mantis and Kong), but 9-B seems fine for at least the adult via sheer size since they grow up to 15 m in length.

Ok seems fair

 

[Tllmbrg]

Regen is maybe due he regenerated that huge scar in his chest I think

Time frame and scans?

Kong despite his size has been shown be able to be on a place without being noticed by humans or other Titans.

What?
How is Kong's feat scale to him?

He also sensed the right place where the Skullcrawlers were, maybe due to their smell.

Scans

 

[Armorchompy]

15 meters is totally enough for 9-B, I'm sure it can be calculated too, if you want a rating.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Time frame and scans?

What?
How is Kong's feat scale to him?

Scans

That was prior the movie. But he has the scar in his chest.

Cause he is a predator that usually hunts other titans like Mire Squid, is not that strange he to be a mastery in camouflage and stealth

Kong's enhanced senses allows him to anticipate enemy attacks, such as when he realizes the Mir Squid is lurking in the lake while he is drinking from a it.

He always hears/senses when humans are in danger in the comics saving their lifes multiple times, also he is a gorilla-like animal so I even wonder why is put in doubt he to have enhanced senses?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

15 meters is totally enough for 9-B, I'm sure it can be calculated too, if you want a rating.

Ok noted.

The only bad thing is we don't know SM weight, otherwise I should calc their KE

 

[Armorchompy]

Ok noted.

The only bad thing is we don't know SM weight, otherwise I should calc their KE

I don't think we use KE anymore, unless it's specifically shown to be an attack. That said, you could look for a stickbug's weight and upscale from there.

 

[Armorchompy]

One of the pics on the SM page is also broken.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I don't think we use KE anymore, unless it's specifically shown to be an attack. That said, you could look for a stickbug's weight and upscale from there.

Well we have Kong running at top speed while attacking his enemies soo...

 

[Armorchompy]

I'm not sure if that's usable, but idk. That said, I meant the stickbug.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

This all seems fine

Soo can I apply the updates?

 

[KieranH10]

I agree with all of this.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I agree with all of this.

Cool

 

[Tllmbrg]

That was prior the movie. But he has the scar in his chest.

So unknown time frame?
Could be not usable in combat then

That was prior the movie. But he has the scar in his chest.

Cause he is a predator that usually hunts other titans like Mire Squid, is not that strange he to be a mastery in camouflage and stealth

Kong's enhanced senses allows him to anticipate enemy attacks, such as when he realizes the Mir Squid is lurking in the lake while he is drinking from a it.

He always hears/senses when humans are in danger in the comics saving their lifes multiple times, also he is a gorilla-like animal so I even wonder why is put in doubt he to have enhanced senses?

Neither the feat you provided is impressive at all (It's a giant squid approaching him from waters he's looking, I doubt it's that impressive to where Kong would counter the Gas Spore's natural camouflage) and Gorillas have minor enhanced senses at best so again I really doubt it can actually counter stealth
As is stealth mastery seems like wank

 

[Armorchompy]

I have to agree with Tllmbrg here. Though Enhanced Hearing might be fine.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

So unknown time frame?
Could be not usable in combat then

Neither the feat you provided is impressive at all (It's a giant squid approaching him from waters he's looking, I doubt it's that impressive to where Kong would counter the Gas Spore's natural camouflage) and Gorillas have minor enhanced senses at best so again I really doubt it can actually counter stealth
As is stealth mastery seems like wank

Yeah Unknown time frame.

Gas Spore?

It is enough with saying it is wrong cause x reason dude instead of saying wank. lol

The Mire Squid was hidding from Kong underwater, his natural predator not showing himself saying "I'm here Kong"!

Kong finding him is an enhanced senses feat

 

[Tllmbrg]

Yeah Unknown time frame.

So it should be noted that this's none combat applicable then

Gas Spore?

Miswording, Spore Mantis

It is enough with saying it is wrong cause x reason dude instead of saying wank. lol

The Mire Squid was hidding from Kong underwater, his natural predator not showing himself saying "I'm here Kong"!

Kong finding him is an enhanced senses feat

1) No
2) Again this's not impressive, unless Kong is nearly blind it's a giant squid underwater to which he's directly starring at and say that it was hypothetically an impressive feat
I doubt that this suddenly lets Kong see through camouflage that seems to rely on standing still based of the monster's look, or any decent one for that matter
3) Still no

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

So it should be noted that this's none combat applicable then

Miswording, Spore Mantis

1) No
2) Again this's not impressive, unless Kong is nearly blind it's a giant squid underwater to which he's directly starring at and say that it was hypothetically an impressive feat
I doubt that this suddenly lets Kong see through camouflage that seems to rely on standing still based of the monster's look, or any decent one for that matter
3) Still no

God knows how many time took to Kong regenerate his wounds, so we could probably note that is done on an unknown amount of time.

I see.

1) That is your decision
2) I mean the water was dark, if we think Kong has limited Enhanced senses how he found the Squid on first place?
3) Stealth mastery could still mean something due other feats on the comics, I'm not gonna mention them yet, my english is not that good.
4) Explained above.

 

[Tllmbrg]

God knows how many time took to Kong regenerate his wounds, so we could probably note that is done on an unknown amount of time.

I see.

1) That is your decision
2) I mean the water was dark, if we think Kong has limited Enhanced senses how he found the Squid on first place?
3) Stealth mastery could still mean something due other feats on the comics, I'm not gonna mention them yet, my english is not that good.
4) Explained above.

2) Again giant squid, and he's looking directly at it, and sure he'd have limited enhanced sense of smell of being a Gorilla but nothing more
3) Well until you showcase those feats I'm vehemently disagree with Stealth Mastery being on the page

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

2) Again giant squid, and he's looking directly at it, and sure he'd have limited enhanced sense of smell of being a Gorilla but nothing more
3) Well until you showcase those feats I'm vehemently disagree with Stealth Mastery being on the page

Ok then I think I agree with you.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Can I apply the updates or there is something else needs to be disscussed here?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Just to make sure, said updates is the tier change and removing the stealth mastery from the Mantis alongside saying the regen is none battle applicable yah?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Just to make sure, said updates is the tier change and removing the stealth mastery from the Mantis alongside saying the regen is none battle applicable yah?

Removing stealth mastery from the Mantis?

We don't know the time of Kong's regen, so is better update it saying his regen takes an unknown amount of time rather than ayinnng is not combat applicable.

 

[Armorchompy]

"Likely not combat applicable", perhaps?

 

[Tllmbrg]

Removing stealth mastery from the Mantis?

Well yes, you literally said you're not gonna show feats from the comics so as is there's no proof for SM

"Likely not combat applicable", perhaps?

Ig it works

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

"Likely not combat applicable", perhaps?

Maybe

Well yes, you literally said you're not gonna show feats from the comics so as is there's no proof for SM

Ig it works

We were talking about Kong stealth mastery, not the Mantis lol

 

[Tllmbrg]

We were talking about Kong stealth mastery, not the Mantis lol

What?
I re-read the thread, maybe I confused some shit but weren't you arguing Kong has good Enhanced Senses and Mantis Spore snub on him this SM?
What feats Kong has then?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

What?
I re-read the thread, maybe I confused some shit but weren't you arguing Kong has good Enhanced Senses and Mantis Spore snub on him this SM?
What feats Kong has then?

I was talking about Kong only

Feats for what?

 

[Tllmbrg]

I was talking about Kong only

Feats for what?

Okay so why Spore Mantis and Kong have stealth mastery then?

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Okay so why Spore Mantis and Kong have stealth mastery then?

Spore Mantis sure

Kong can be quiet before attack but I don't know if that is stealth mastery tbh

 

[Tllmbrg]

Kong can be quiet before attack but I don't know if that is stealth mastery tbh

No, it's not

Spore Mantis sure

That too is not stealth mastery, it's just good camouflage and doing the simple thing of standing still

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

No, it's not

That too is not stealth mastery, it's just good camouflage and doing the simple thing of standing still

Then is Camouflage instead of Stealth Mastery ok

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

I think we should change Stealth Mastery for Camouflage on the othe titans profiles too...

They are basically animals with camouflage similar to Spore Mantis for example Sirenjaw can be confused with a cave but it is actually its mouth.

Also can I already apply the accepted changes?

 

[Tllmbrg]

I think we should change Stealth Mastery for Camouflage on the othe titans profiles too...

They are basically animals with camouflage similar to Spore Mantis for example Sirenjaw can be confused with a cave but it is actually its mouth.

Also can I already apply the accepted changes?

Sure I agree with it
Ask staff

 

[Antvasima]

This seems uncontroversial to apply, yes.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Ok I'll make it

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Done.

I added Kong calcs downgrading him in the process, among the top tiers of Skull Island who scale from him.

I downgraded Spore Mantis and also replaced the Stealth Mastery from all of the Titans profiles by camoufalge.

This can be closed now.