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Some Black Hole Adjustments

Psychomaster35

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So apparently, Black Hole got created, and its pretty much a nice welcome for him (kudos to Unoriginal Memes, btw). However: There are some things that need to be adjusted (even though the profile is literally just a few hours old lol).

His Lifting Strength: Black Hole is the mass of 20 suns, according to the Battle for Dream Island: Official Character Guide. Therefore, his strength should be Stellar via sheer mass.

Assuming Black Hole is Non-Corporeal scaling from other Black Holes, that should make sense.

Finally, one more additional ability. Black Hole should get Black Hole Physiology because, well: hes a literal black hole, what did you expect?

The Speed for his big form... it should be Massively Hypersonic.

What do you think?
 
lifting: agree

non-corperiality: agree

black hole physiology: i don't really agree, because if black hole's a literal black hole then everyone and everything in BFB should and would be dead. people can stand around black hole like nothing's happening so unless more things happen in BFB, i don't agree

speed: agree

also, black hole is missing a key
 
Ah, a fellow knowledgable member!

Thanks for the evaluation, and yes: I feel aware of that as well. Unoriginal probably forgot to add the keys, but it would look like this:

Key: Original Size | Shrunke
 
Yeah.

As for size, the issue about Big Black Hole's size is where its unknown if his 20 sun mass were to still scale to his height, as he is an abnormal Black Hole. For one, as I wrote the note down in Four's profile, one of the creators, Satomi Hinatsu, says on a twitter post that Black Hole was kept the same mass even when he got shrunken down, something a real Black Hole is not supposed to do, as they are supposed to be a smaller mass the smaller they are.

More info is found on Four's profile. Read if you must.
 
Furthermore, you sure it is possible we can actually get his sheer KE by simply moving? Knowing his mass is 20 suns, that should be able to work.
 
One more thing: Mind if I go add some explanations to the profile? Its regarding reasons why he would not be High 4-C, plus some links, quoting, and more summary.
 
TheTemEmpire makes sense to me.
 
I guess so.

Im also pretty sure Black Hole's small form should at least be comparable to his Big Form? His official bio in the OCG states that he is the mass of 20 suns, and with confirmation from one of the creators that Small Black Hole's massis the same as his big form, that means his small form should be MUCH higher. I propose...

Attack Potency: At least Planet Level (Is stated to be a threat to the Earth), possibly far higher | At least Planet Level (Much weaker than before, but shouldnt be too far behind in power to that of his big form)
 
The lifting strength seems fine.

Planet level attack potency seems fine.

I do not know about non-corporeal.

Black hole physiology is not fine.

What is the reason for massively hypersonic speed?
 
For the speed, It was apparently from trying to scale Black Hole's mass to get his height, but as you probably remember, we have already discussed that Black Hole was a fraudant one, being abnormal in many ways compared to a real Black Hole. Ergo, it is unknown if the scaling from his mass would still be applicable to his height. Would it?

And the (possibly) Non-Corporeal comes from scaling from other Black Holes which are non-physical objects, but since there is bo confirmation, it was at least put there as a possible ability.
 
Okay. So only the lifting strength and the Planet level attack potency should be applied then?
 
Lifting Strength was already applied. As for the AP, this may go higher for a potential KE movement. Also, your opinion on the speed?
 
I do not have enough information about the reasons for the speed.
 
Okay. Here is his supposed speed feat.

In context, he just decides to move closer to the Earth, as we see an outer view of him moving towards the planet. Obviously, his size would have to be known, so I scaled the height of him off of his sheer mass of 20 suns to get a height of 118159.8 meters, using this. I used the triangle formula, for his diagonal distance moved in a second, and thats the speed.

Im not sure if the height can still be scaled from the mass, given that Black Hole is already fraudant from real ones. Ive seen that you can get the height, but the mass is impossible when it comes to measuring fake Black Holes, but I am unsure about the mass being confirmed but the height isnt confirmed, especially if there is nothing to scale it off of. Would it?
 
I do not think that we can assume his size, if he does not have the traits of a real black hole.
 
I do not know. Sorry. And I cannot watch Youtube videos for most of the day.

The size obviously depends on the distance he was seen from.
 
Sure. For reference, here is how big he can be.

22EB40A4-1D5C-49A7-843B-50330202772F
From Earth

23F04A5A-6C14-43E7-BFE9-2DD4A405ACA6
From an outer view
 
Well, he seems to be almost as big as the Earth in the second image, so that can probably be used to scale from.
 
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