So whats up with Shibai?

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Considering momoshiki statement about how Omnipotence works Shibai should be at least universal

 

[Trihexa102]

Lmao you sound like you take every statement hyperliterally, you don't look at any contradictions, you don't look at the way power scaling works, being called higher dimensional means nothing on its own without further evidence, it seems like you are the one coping here, good luck getting this passed on this wiki if "BuT mY kAnJi" is all you have for evidence.

Lol I didn't say there is enough to confirm it, but it's at least a possibly or likely , why would you compare kaguya's dimensions to A kanji which has only one meaning referring to a mathematical higher dimension, kaguya dimensions has been stated multiple times to be a different timespace from the original naruto verse , just like momoshiki's dimensions were called an alternate dimension, and there are spiritual realms like the pure land, limbo and others which all exist along with this timepsaces and alternate dimension's . But shibai ascended past all that, so its not a spiritual realm bruh, he aint hagoromo.(and Momo even claims it true as someone who has observed this plane). at the very least his abiliities via daemon and eida should give a measure of his pre-ascended body much less his ascended state.
well that's all I have to say regarding this , you can ignore me you don't think otherwise.

 

[SlendVeny]

Considering momoshiki statement about how Omnipotence works Shibai should be at least universal

Omnipotence isn't AP

 

[Stryker861]

Omnipotence isn't AP

its an abbility that can produce ap if you used in a certain way

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Omnipotence isn't AP

It is when its stated that is capable of creating "worlds" which likely means universe

 

[SlendVeny]

It is when its stated that is capable of creating "worlds" which likely means universe

I suppose he might be that high with Omnipotence specifically.

 

[TiltedFN]

It is when its stated that is capable of creating "worlds" which likely means universe

Why would it mean universe, worlds in this context can mean anything, ranging from planet size dimensions, or even dimensions with multiple stars, it would have said universes and not worlds if thats what it meant.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Why would it mean universe, worlds in this context can mean anything, ranging from planet size dimensions, or even dimensions with multiple stars, it would have said universes and not worlds if thats what it meant.

Because every otsutsuki has their own dimensions why would Momoshiki state it to special if its an ability any otsutsuki can use freely?

 

[TiltedFN]

Lol I didn't say there is enough to confirm it, but it's at least a possibly or likely , why would you compare kaguya's dimensions to A kanji which has only one meaning referring to a mathematical higher dimension, kaguya dimensions has been stated multiple times to be a different timespace from the original naruto verse , just like momoshiki's dimensions were called an alternate dimension, and there are spiritual realms like the pure land, limbo and others which all exist along with this timepsaces and alternate dimension's . But shibai ascended past all that, so its not a spiritual realm bruh, he aint hagoromo.(and Momo even claims it true as someone who has observed this plane). at the very least his abiliities via daemon and eida should give a measure of his pre-ascended body much less his ascended state.
well that's all I have to say regarding this , you can ignore me you don't think otherwise.

Who cares if the kanji said higher dimensional, and its not possibly or likely since we have no further info, i already gave you some arguments on why he's not 4d, there could be so many different interpretations of higher dimensional. And it never said he "ascended" that is a mistrans, not what the raws say, either way, it still wouldn't make him 4d.

 

[TiltedFN]

Because every otsutsuki has their own dimensions why would Momoshiki state it to special if its an ability any otsutsuki can use freely?

All of these dimensions that the otsutsuki have or not even close to universal in size, so why would i assume omnipotence can create a universe? That doesn't make any sense.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Why would it mean universe, worlds in this context can mean anything, ranging from planet size dimensions, or even dimensions with multiple stars, it would have said universes and not worlds if thats what it meant.

And in Japanese the word world can mean both planet and universe its a real problem because we have to use context to actually know what it means

 

[TiltedFN]

And in Japanese the word world can mean both planet and universe its a real problem because we have to use context to actually know what it means

well in this context, it likely does not mean universe, or it would have said universe outright, these dimensions these otsutsuki create are planet sized.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

All of these dimensions that the otsutsuki have or not even close to universal in size, so why would i assume omnipotence can create a universe? That doesn't make any sense.

The otsutsuki dimensions some are even as big as multi solar system at the very least even likely more although with lack of evidence.

 

[TiltedFN]

The otsutsuki dimensions some are even as big as multi solar system at the very least even likely more although with lack of evidence.

multi solar in video games only which are considered as non canon, so no, in canon, the dimensions are small

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

multi solar in video games only which are considered as non canon, so no, in canon, the dimensions are small

In cannon they are not accepted as being made by otsutsuki but they are confirmed to be at least solar system in size because of having stars on it

 

[Stryker861]

multi solar in video games only which are considered as non canon, so no, in canon, the dimensions are small

bro did not read naruto. kaguyas dimensions have stars, planets and moons in them.

 

[TiltedFN]

In cannon they are not accepted as being made by otsutsuki but they are confirmed to be at least solar system in size because of having stars on it

The dimensions can be like nigh solar system, thats why kaguya was rated as large star level. Still, nowhere close to a universe

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

The dimensions can be like nigh solar system, thats why kaguya was rated as large star level. Still, nowhere close to a universe

And Kaguya is taken as "nowhere close" to Shibai. Jutsus are considered just week rip off of shinjutsu which as far as we know Kaguya had none while shibai apparently has all or at least he has the most powerful one, so that makes him way above kaguya

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

So this went to hell and back. Closing.