> this aint a speed feat. Moltres falling isnt a speed feat for moltres.
But it is a feat against Salamance since it could not catch Moltres and stop it from falling in lava, even with its full speed. Re-posting part of my last reply:
"I made it my task to go through some online respect threads to find feats of them outspeeding regular pokemon or making regular pokemon look slow in comparison to help justify the standard."
This is the latter. Salamances speed is slow in comparison to Moltres falling, or else he would have been able to catch it.
>That very same charizard that "got blitzed" is the same charizard that defeated the bird.
After an extremely diffucult fight where it barely got out a victory in the end. And guess what? This would still be an outlier or PIS feat on Charizards part. We dont accept regular mon winning against legendaries as anything legitimate and Charizards no exception. We dont accept Reds Mega Zard X being 5-B and Rel+ for overwhelming Mewtwo, so trying to use Ash's Charizard beating an Articuno is a double standard.
Besides, so what if Articuno lost? That doesnt change the fact that he outsped, dodged Charizards attacks, and blitzed him. Multiple times. Blitzing doesnt become invalidated just because of a win or loss.
>No. Dont use Entei vs Charizard in the movie because Entei didnt overwhelm Charizard with speed.
Besides what I already showed.
>Charizard has no trouble keeping up with Entei's attacks and got defeated with a surprise attack because Entei was playing in home.
What surprise attack? And no, Charizard's only speed feats in this entire fight are dodging long-ranged fire blasts from Entei, which doesnt matter much since Entei does the same exact thing when dodging Charizard's flamethrowers. Not only that, Charizard does this when already flying in the air with an obvious mobility advantage due to being a flying type. Entei very much overwhelmed Charizard with its speed, unless you already forgotten Entei casually reacted to Charizard charging at it and sent it flying away with a headbutt in less than a second. The very first thing they do in this fight and Entei made quick short work of Charizard.
What I originally typed got deleted and I dont have time to try and retype everything I said originally, so i'll only detail this fight out if I have to.
>Both dodge each other's attacks
Besides Entei's physical strikes, which Charizard blatantly gets blitzed by.
>until Entei lands the first hit, followed by a chase in which Charizard is severely crippled by the Unown/Crystal thing until Entei catches up and beats him.
Which is Entei's doing. Entei is able to manipulate those crystals to an extent as attacks and control them, so this is not a surprise attack or anything. Its Entei tagging Charizard. And even then, Entei's last attack on Charizard blitzed it as well. Plus, im almost 100% certain that Entei didnt even use that much effort to take down Charizard. The only opponents in this entire movie that actually make Entei legitimately struggle are the Unown (and for obvious reasons).
Speaking of which, isnt this Entei supposed to have inferior capabilities compared to real Enteis? This Entei is just a creation of Mollys wishes that the Unown made real. If this Entei is << real Entei, this helps my point even more.
>And seeing you using that fight as evidence makes me think that some of the rest of your evidence may be just taken out of context in order to prove your point, btw.
First of all, I already pointed out where I got my evidence from. From quick google searches of online respect threads for some of these 6-B low end legendaries. So even if some of the stuff I provided doesnt check out in the end, it definitely isnt intentional as your reply seems to try and point out. So please, don't accuse me of anything.
Second, I fail to see what's being taken out of context here as majority of this at the very least is showing that regular mons speeds are inferior/a joke in comparison to these legendaries. Even if some of the stuff I provided doesnt check out, that certainly isnt the case with everything I provided.
>If this comes as rude or anything is just because the third movie is one of the two Pokemon movies I own (in VHS, mind you, the other one is Mewtwo the return), and is the movie I have seen most times out of the pokemon franchise. And I wont agree with Entei blitzing Charizard in any way.
And im sorry if this comes off as rude too, but it doesnt really matter what you will or will never personally agree with when in face of provided facts and evidence.
I have this and majority of every Pokemon movie downloaded to my PC as well and know them by heart, so I understand where your coming from on this note. But I disagree with you on this.
>But Legendaries matching regular pokemon isnt what Im looking for by any means. That's just a reason for "they scale".
No, it isnt. Legendaries scale from non-legendaries already just for being legendaries in themselves, who are known to be above the latters paygrade. Applying actual scaling feats to this would make this more than just "they scale", it would make them upscale from regular mon.
