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Smaug VS The Cyberdemon

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I'm going to give it to Smaug via mobility with flight, and ranged fire breath attacks.
 
Okay, this looks like a good match as well. I don't know where in the Town level range Smaug is, because Naruto Forums is currently inaccessible to non members; but I should list other advantages.

Smaug is capable of flight, so that could give him the airborne advantage. He's also much smarter; although, I do not think telepathy works on a character who doesn't have much of a mind to begin with. Although, Cyberdemon does have the projectiles necessary to reach the Smaug. For now, I'm going with inconclusive until I can see Smaug's calc and judge his power properly.
 
Huh. Must've missed the last notification for this post. Strange.

Anywho, I personally highly doubt that movement speed alone is going to be enough of a reason to count out the version of the Cyberdemon being used here, as (according to the lore in the reboot) it has regen powerful enough to heal organs in moments. Smaug only moves faster when flying, also.
 
"My armor is like tenfold shields! My teeth are like swords! My claws, spears! The shock of my tail, a thunderbolt! My wings, a hurricane! And my breath, death!" - Smaug wins this via mobility, range, higher physical strength and greater intelligence.

Edit: But if Cyberdemon really has that regen it could be difficult for Smaug.
 
Vote added.

But yeah, from what I remember reading on it, the Cyberdemon was nothing but remains when the UAC found it, long-dead to the point of being petrified. When they tried to weld the remains back together with Argent energy, its flesh reanimated and they realized said energy could be used to create 'living, growing tissue' from its remains. (Which, again, were petrified from being dead for so long, meaning it was well beyond the point of having its organs decomposed) I also vaguely remember reading somewhere that it regenerated its frontal lobe right before it got up and attacked the UAC team working on it, but I can't seem to locate where I read that.

Anywho, they implanted Argent Accumulator (basically a battery of Argent energy) inside its chest and wired it to its brain in order to distribute the stuff to whatever part of the body it needed to. Even if the bit about regenerating organs proves false, it can indeed still regenerate on some level, since the logs say the UAC can't properly subdue it due to it simply restoring itself with Argent energy whenever it gets worn down from taking damage. (This is the same corporation that supposedly has cutting lasers with temperatures of '2 megakelvin', so that's not insignificant.) Probably not going to run out of that energy anytime soon either, since the Accumulator supposedly has '30,000 megawatt-hours' worth of it.
 
Also...where are you getting 'higher physical strength' from? As far as I can tell, the NF calc linked to Smaug is still inaccessible, so how are you comparing the numbers?
 
Smaug due to range, flight and fire breath.

Wouldn't having to regenerate from being on fire eventually wear out the cyber demons regen.
 
I would have thought Cyberdemons have resistance to fire; they do live in Hell after all, which should give them resistance to hellfire.
 
I was thinking that too, though if they do it might only be low lvl ie. it's only good for high environmental temperatures not an actual fire based attack.
 
Depends tbh. Cybie hasn't shown any notable resistance to fire in any of its info, and in-game, all of the demons with fire-based attacks can still hurt each other.

Even then though, I don't think constant flames would necessarily 'wear out' Cybie's regen. For one, I already mentioned that the Accumulator has '30,000 megawatt-hours' (read: approximately 1,250 days) worth of Argent Energy, and for two, none of the UAC were able to prevent it from healing itself at-will no matter how much damage they did to it. (Though admittedly, the BFG is probably the only man-portable weapon they have that can do much damage to it. They were supposedly able to wear it down enough that it needed to regenerate in the first place though, so the jury's out on that one)

EDIT: Vote added, btw.
 
Yeah that's why i said if Cybie's got a resistance it's going to be useless for battle.

30,000 megawatt hours is alot but still finite and how long it would last depends on the rate at which the power is consumed. Further, if a couple of town lvl attacks from a BFG can put Cybie down dispite it's regen (which from it's profile seems to take a few minuites) some comparable and spammable fire blasts should do the job.
 
It takes more than 'a couple' of shots in the reboot, though. In fact, reboot Cybie can survive more shots than the gun is capable of carrying at once. The Doom Slayer also needed to remove the Accumulator from its chest in order to put it down for good.

The amount of energy the Accumulator has is finite, yes. But even if Cybie were to activate it constantly throughout the fight, it isn't very likely that it would use up 1,250 days worth of energy in an hour or less.

We also don't know Smaug's exact AP yet until someone brings the calcs over from NF. (which I'll admit is partially my bad, since I didn't realize before I made this match that Smaug's rating is based around a NF calc)
 
Fair point but Smaug doesn't really have an ammo limit and ripping the accumulator out might be something would do given his inteligence and tendancy to seal valubles.

Depends how much energy it takes to regenerate and how much damage Smaug can do (so his AP is likely what decides the match).
 
The first bit probably depends on whether or not he can recognize it as being the thing Cybie draws its power from. Remember that Smaug comes from a medieval setting. Technology (especially tech as hyper-advanced as what's in DOOM) would most likely be alien to it.

The second bit is true enough. Really wish Smaug's calcs were visible right now, tbh.
 
My thinking is that while the accumulator is alien tech to Smaug he might perceive it as treasure given that it's shiny and Cybie knows it's value.
 
New Breakthrough! Internet Wayback Machine Allows Access To Fossilized Calcs!

We can now compare the speed of these two.

According to this, the highest-end of the speed calc which Smaug scales to is 9620 m/s

Cybie, on the other hand, directly scales to a character which can dodge plasma projectiles comparable to Coronal Mass Ejections. (As discussed here some longass time ago) According to this, the lowest-end speed of a CME is 20 km/s, AKA 20,000 m/s. The middle-end is 489 km/s (489,000 m/s) and the highest-end is 3,200 km/s. (Err, you get the picture...)

I'm working on unearthing Smaug's AP calc right now. But speed-wise, Cybie's combat speed is looking a lot higher. May have to equalize speed unless Smaug comes back with ridiculously higher AP.
 
I'm thinking Cyberdemon if he can close the gap quickly and fire like a madman on Smaug's weakness. Smaug may have flight but he is too big too miss, specially for one as fast and well armed as a Cyberdemon. His terrakinesis might give him a good edge, plus his anatomy is better for close combat.
 
Waitwaitwait. Something isn't adding up here.

489,000 m/s is almost Mach 1426. That's Massively Hypersonic+. Whoever did the edit on Doomguy's speed way back when misfired big time.

I'm going to assemble a revision thread on this. Speed is equalized until further notice.
 
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