smash bros question

[sanicspood]

if master hand is uni+ why aernt the roster uni+ for damaging and defeating it?

 

[sanicspood]

bump

 

[Eficiente]

A number of reasons.

• MH was implied to hold back, when CH is fought along MH we can reasonably assume he's holding back as well as per playing along with his partner.
  • Yes this doesn't apply to MH's transformations in Wii U/3DS, Giga Bowser, Tabuu and Galeem and the evil Galeem.
• As the most consistent is everyone being able to harm everyone, this would scale to not just the roster, which would be fine, but all assistant trophies and PKMN regardless of how they have their own lore making them far weaker to different degrees. This logically makes it an outlier, it would for instance make no sense for lesser legendary PKMN to scale to their gods (which is what MH scales to), nor non-legendary PKMN, nor mid-evolution PKMN, nor first evolution baby PKMN. Even if they were all just tier 5 that would still hold more water.
• In the first trailer of Ultimate when the roster was outnumbered 10 to 1 they portrayed that as pretty much impossible, which the heroes should kinda at least not be so scared of and just have it portrayed as "very hard" if their opportunities were really "We need to beat 10 of this beings each of us". This are larger than life people who have done the impossible while keeping their regular personality.
• Later it's shown that MH can easily beat dozens of copies of the roster by himself. Way more than 10.
• In Seph's trailer at least some of the roster was defeated and others very harmed by facing some MHs, with more MHs and Galeem behind not doing anything. It's not shown that they managed to defeat any MH themselves, we are only shown this in a completely one-sided way.
• The modes in which MH is defeated aside from World of Light don't really have a strong reason to be canon, if the toys did return to the real world then why are they back to the World of Imagination by the time of the next Smash game? Meanwhile the roster fighting each other even with items is something that happens, it's shown in Brawl and that setting is shown again in World of Light.

So that, they always beating MH and others in his level is an outlier that just keeps happening like Marvel/DC heralds moving as slow as low tiers, or non-Force users overpowering Force users.

 

[sanicspood]

ohh i see, thanks