Slight edit to Legends Obi Wan Kenobi

[LordWhis]

He should have '''Higher''' when in a state of focus.

 

[Antvasima]

You can ask The Everlasting and Soldier Blue about this.

 

[LordWhis]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

Have you asked them to comment here?

 

[LordWhis]

@ant: yes

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

This applies to literally every Force user in both Canon and Legends. Once they completely calm themselves down and give themselves up to the Force and let it guide their actions, their reflexes, speed, precognition, even telekinetic power, everything seems to increase.

We've seen this in Canon with Luke (Heir to the Jedi and The Weapon of a Jedi), Kanan (thrice during Rebels), Kenobi (against Maul and Savage on Florrum, against Maul again on Tatooine, against Vader per From a Certain Point of View), Omi (a Force sensitive Dianoga) when she was fighting a couple of Stormtroopers, even Vader (2015 Vader comics).

And we've seen it quite a bit in Legends as well. Perhaps the most notable example is when Kenobi gives himself up to the Force completely and lets it guide his hands during his final duel against Grievous (Matthew Stover's ROTS novelization).

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. So would this be a worthwhile addition to their profiles?

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Not really. I think most of the profiles are fine as they are.

Though a "higher" addition to certain characters who have showcased ridiculous boosts would be okay. Or not? Still unsure...

An example of a really big boost would be Kanan aboard the Sovereign suddenly matching someone who was stomping him before, and Rey matching and overpowering Kylo Ren after giving herself over to the Force completely on Starkiller Base.

 

[LordWhis]

Even Kenobi has had very big boosts, he should get a higher as well.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Not really. I think most of the profiles are fine as they are.
Though a "higher" addition to certain characters who have showcased ridiculous boosts would be okay. Or not? Still unsure...

An example of a really big boost would be Kanan aboard the Sovereign suddenly matching someone who was stomping him before, and Rey matching and overpowering Kylo Ren after giving herself over to the Force completely on Starkiller Base.

I second this

 

[LordWhis]

Furthermore, his boosts are the most consistent and the only ones to my knowledge which have been acknowledged in-universe.

 

[Antvasima]

@Soldier Blue

Well, it is up to you whether or not you want to insert such mentions into a few profiles, but I would be fine with it.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Even Kenobi has had very big boosts, he should get a higher as well.

I don't think he's gotten ludicrous boosts in overall power. He won so quickly against Maul because his opponent used the exact same move-sets against Qui-Gon, and Kenobi saw through it all. Pablo Hidalgo even explained this in the Rebels Recon episode following Twin Suns' airing. By far the only large boosts I can agree on him getting when focusing is with precognition and reflexes.

 

[LordWhis]

On Florrum ?

Also, several statements both by authors and characters point to his boosts as being large.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, since Soldier Blue seems to have this thread under control, I am unfollowing it.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

I think Canon Vader should get higher if I remember correctly

 

[Soldier_Blue]

On Florrum ?

He used a Jar'Kai variant of Soresu to defend (really tight defence) and was unable to attack at all until he repeatedly kicked Savage in an area where he was already hit before and badly injured his leg. This broke Maul and Savage's momentum and Kenobi was able to exploit the opening with a slash to Savage's arm, severing it at the shoulder. Maul then got angry and blasted Kenobi away. It was more a testament to Kenobi's skill than anything else.

Also, several statements both by authors and characters point to his boosts as being large.

Huh? From what I recall, when Kenobi gives himself over to the Force, his precognition improves and his body seemingly moves without thought to block or counter enemy attacks, with the Force essentially controlling his actions rather him using the Force. It is because of this that I believe he was able to hold out so long against Maul and Savage on Florrum.

 

[LordWhis]

@soldierblue: blocking strikes from them with one hand is still a clear strength improvement. And his skill didn't help him in previous fights against the duo, individually and together, there was a definite improvement, enough for a Higher

"When pressed, because Obi-Wan is protecting someone else in the end, he does fight. But because he is so true and knows who he is in that moment, you can't defeat that.'

-Dave Filoni (Referring to Ben Vs maul)

"Be who you are,and Grievous will never defeat you." - Mace Windu. Furthermore their entire discussion signifies a large improvement for Obi wan.


He has also demonstrated this ability more than any other character which should be enough for Higher.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

You're right. Kenobi is actually quite a strong individual but blocking strikes - with one hand - from a Form VII specialist such as Maul and a beast like Savage is impressive even for him. And like Qui-Gon, he does seem to have an especially strong connection to the Living Force.

So as far as Canon boosts go, I can be okay with a "higher" for Kanan and Kenobi. Perhaps Rey as well.

As for Legends... That's a different and more confusing area.

@Lord Whis, did you ask Everlasting to comment here?

 

[LordWhis]

@Lord Whis, did you ask Everlasting to comment here?

Yes.

Also, TCW is 100% canon to Legends as well.

 

[LordWhis]

Bump

 

[LordWhis]

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