Since Anu is Tier 0...

[Asriel77]

If any thing i believe anu should be getting plot/narrative manipulation on a passive level but thats just.me

 

[Ogbunabali]

You debunk yourself.

"Anu the Godhead can dream about himself. Have you never been in one of your own? More: have you never been a character in one?

Now take that and make it a lucid dream, and you simply can't just get rid of any characters you made, even the I that isn't your I that is. - Michael Krikbride"

Also, let me simplify this for you.

ANU the Dreamer had to come from somewhere.

 

[Asriel77]

What mk basically said is that anu came from anu.

 

[Ogbunabali]

Yes. Anu the subgradient came from ANU the Dreamer.

Anu the subgradient didn't became ANU the Dreamer......

 

[Asriel77]

Well he did he started to sleep and became the dreamer while in the dream.

That is actually clarified

 

[Asriel77]

That's why his profile says he rose to amaranth.

Yes while he did rose to it he was always the amaranth.

Again its just metaphysics

 

[Ogbunabali]

You're confusing everything and making it a jumbled mess.

ANU "rose up" to the Amaranth in the "previous" Dream. He then proceeded to create the "current" Dream in which there is another Anu that is a subgradient.

Anu the subgradient of the current Dream, didn't "rise up to become the Amaranth".

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

What Og is saying, is that Anu the Subgradient is completely unrelated and disconnected from the Anu that fought with Padomay for Nir and that then achieved Amaranth to become the dreamer of the TES verse.

 

[Asriel77]

"Anu was one of the characters dreamed up and he took the dream over"


"Having flowered in the state of the amranth, anu became the unerased all emcomposing godhead"

 

[Asriel77]

What Og is saying, is that Anu the Subgradient is completely unrelated and disconnected from the Anu that fought with Padomay for Nir and that then achieved Amaranth to become the dreamer of the TES verse.

No hes not saying they arent related hes just saying they arent the same being.

 

[Ogbunabali]

"Anu was one of the characters dreamed up and he took the dream over"

Yes. By "take over" he meant he created the "current" Dream. If you read the full quote

"That dreamer would have been the original Godhead. Anu was one of the first characters dreamt up, and he took it over. It was an honest answer."

He literally says that there was a Godhead that originally Dreamt ANU (the one that would one day become the Amaranth) up.

And that ANU then proceeded to Dream this "current" Dream, in which there is another character named Anu that is the first subgradient.

 

[kgt]

No. That's literally not what happens.

The thing you're talking about is A Children's Anuad. Which is the story of the "previous" Dream in where ANU (before he became an Amaranth) and Padomay (a different Padomay than then one that's in the current Elder Scrolls games) fight over Nir. And it culminates with ANU becoming the schizophrenic Godhead that Dreams the current Dream in which the setting of the Elder Scrolls games take place.

And that Dream is split into gradients. Starting with Anu and Padomay. The first subgradients, and following with Anui-El and Sithis, and so on.

And the current Dream (the one where the TES games take place) "concludes" with Vivec and Jubal-lun-Sul's divine wedding, where they create the next Amaranth, and with it the next Dream.

so is it virtually guaranteed that with the arrival of the next Elder Scrolls we will have another tier 0 in the universe?

 

[Nierre]

2019.

 

[kgt]

2019.

lol hadn't seen

 

[Antvasima]

I will lock this thread.