Silver Samurai upgrade

[Votron5]

Hello, I found some feats that I think justify Silver Samurai having a higher AP and Dura.

Restrains Spider-Man for some time with Spider-Man admiting it is harder to break from his grip than he thought and that it even hurts.

Fights evenly with Wolverine not using his claws.

Snuck a hit on Spider-Man that knocked the wind out of him.

Knocked out Spider-Man with a glancing blow.

Psylocke's and Revanche's psychic blades do not knock him out and a punch from beast finally does the trick.

Spider-Man says his armor blunts the impact of his punches.

Takes a punch from Luke Cage.

Fights Wolverine to a stalemate (But Wolverine wasn't trying to beat him)

Stalemates Wolverine for a while before Wolverine cuts off his hand.

Fought Spider-Man and Widow for quite some time before he was defeated. He almost knocked out Spider-Man again in this fight.

Puts up a good fight against Wolverine but ultimately loses.

Puts up a good fight against Spider-Man but ultimately loses.

Some maybe Multi-City Block AP and Durability?

 

[Cropfist]

I agree with this.

 

[Huesito88]

On the topic of the Silver Samurai, I think durability negation via sword should be removed.

 

[Js250476]

That's interesting to hear

 

[Votron5]

Huesito makes a good point.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that it makes sense to scale him to Wolverine and Spider-Man. It would be preferable to get Matthew Schroeder to respond here though.

 

[Votron5]

I couldn't get matthew to respond here. Anyone else I could message to get their opinion?

 

[Antvasima]

Sandman31, Azathoth, and Shivansh perhaps.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I think it makes sense for Silver Samurai to be on Captain America's and Wolverine's level. Should note Spider Man is Low 7-C, but not too much different. But 8-A makes sense to me.

 

[Antvasima]

I personally think that the Low 7-C and 8-A Marvel characters are likely rated too high. High 8-C and 8-C seems more in line with their general portrayals. However, that is a discussion for another thread.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

One could probably argue for that being the case, but regardless, I think the scaling itself makes sense.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I don't think "Too high" is enough reason against the ratings; especially if the calcs are legit. And they're Massively Hypersonic+ speed feats are consistent iirc.

However, staying on topic, the scaling to Silver Samurai does make sense.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that we should consider Spider-Man's Low 7-C Hulk-moving feat as an outlier, and Captain America's withstanding a 8-A blast that got around his shield as a mistake from the author or artist.

Anyway, the Silver Samurai page can probably be updated.