Shinza banshou discussion thread~Revival~

[Natsuki012]

I will revive shinza banshou, im already writing a kasumi profile.

strongest dies irae character

 

[PrinceofPein]

For the record, the profiles are done, but we still need help making them up to standard, which includes adding references, or rather mainly adding references

 

[Mugen-Kokutosho-Jigoku]

For the record, the profiles are done, but we still need help making them up to standard, which includes adding references, or rather mainly adding references

No need for that, i'll be remaking them all from scratch (mind you, Dies Irae profiles specifically like Rusalka and Issak's need to be updated with current Entelecheia infos). After all, as i've said more than two months ago:

I think i'll probably announce it here to avoid controversies later on.

Due to the current state of Shinza Banshō on the wiki, i'm planning to make revisions of the entire series this summer, ranging from the cosmology page to every single one of the profiles (going through physiology pages and even supplementary explanations addressing misconceptions about the verse). I am knowledgable about the series and possess a Fantia subscription as well (i also possess links to every single piece of content you could possibly need of). I'm already gathering supporters for this project, so in case you're fine with it, i wouldn't mind your help in organizing things. Make sure to reply if you want to participate and help!

 

[Hecky2222]

No need for that, i'll be remaking them all from scratch (mind you, Dies Irae profiles specifically like Rusalka and Issak's need to be updated with current Entelecheia infos). After all, as i've said more than two months ago:

You can add to that Ultima approved the fact you gonna revive verse

 

[Mbpoops]

Xenophobia

 

[PrinceofPein]

You can add to that Ultima approved the fact you gonna revive verse

Could care less who approved what, that's doesn't mean much, you can just make any page you want unless they already exist or unless they are tier 1 iirc in which case you would need a CRT.

And like I already said the pages and everything is ready already for the most part. And they need references and updates; that is based on the last CRT made..
I've been busy this past 8 months, else would have done it myself.

That said i find it time and effort wasting to try and create one of the most complex and complete pages the wiki has ever had from the scratch, just because according to you "you have access to the materials" if you want to help, fix the ones already made, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them. Everyone of us who worked on those pages also have access to materials needed.

Now if you wish to help with making the pages more complete and what not, you are welcome to let me know and you will be added to the discord, though everyone else is busy right now.

 

[Hecky2222]

Could care less who approved what. Like I said the pages and everything is ready already for the most part. And they need references and updates; that is based on the last CRT made..
I've been busy this past 8 months, else would have done it myself.

That said i find it time and effort wasting to try and create one of the most complex and complete pages the wiki has ever had from the scratch, just because according to you "you have access to the materials" if you want to help, fix the ones already made, there is absolutely nothing wrong with them. Everyone of us who worked on those pages also have access to materials needed.

Now if you wish to help with making the pages more complete and what not, you are welcome to let me know and you will be added to the discord, though everyone else is busy right now.

@Azertyhuuh would help you

 

[Hasty12345]

No, I will revive Shinza, I am top 1 oldest Shinza supporter on this site

 

[Mugen-Kokutosho-Jigoku]

Could care less who approved what. Like I said the pages and everything is ready already. And they need references and that is based on the last CRT made..
I've been busy this past 8 months, else would have done it myself.

The state you left the verse in for the past 8 months is exactly what made this project of mine take the lead. Shinza was allowed to formally come back but the only thing that was made after that was a, if you don't mind me calling it like this, horrible attempt at bringing back very outdated pages full of broken links, misspellings, and with little to no abilities, which ALSO lead to people proposing a literal copypaste of the abilities of an old CSAP profile of MINE to literally save those profiles:

Mithra missing abilities

Since Shinza Banshō is back, the profile are pretty messy and Mithra has no abilities or fully explained Attack Potency, so I would like to add these stuff on there. Changes: PrinceofPern's Blogs would be removed due to low quality. Old Profile New Profile

vsbattles.com

Moreover, not only your profiles haven't even been revised for over a year (which can be very well seen by the edit history of your blogs), but, as i've said before, lack many, many, of the infos that should be put in them (besides, it's impossible or all profiles to have been made since we recently got 20+ new characters from Entelecheia alone). Moreover, as i have announced more than 2 months ago in my previous message to avoid controversies like this one, i was going to revise everything. So no, you can't just show up randomly and decide to ignore everything that has been made by the combined work of more than 40 people to bring back pages that are collectively viewed as bad. Besides, like Shin mentioned, Ultima approved this decision of mine:



I would also like to call out on you spreading misinformation about the series such as "Magsarion being a Madou God" but that's not relevant to the topic at all.

 

[PrinceofPein]

@Azertyhuuh would help you

Anyone is welcome to help actually, just be a bit knowledgeable and also know how to edit wiki pages properly

 

[Hecky2222]

Besides, like Shin, mentioned, Ultima approved this decision of mine:

Chat i am @ShinMaximillion

Time to wank Type-Moon ig

 

[Robo432343]

The state you left the verse in for the past 8 months is exactly what made this project of mine take the lead. Shinza was allowed to formally come back but the only thing that was made after that was a, if you don't mind me calling it like this, horrible attempt at bringing back very outdated pages full of broken links, misspellings, and with little to no abilities, which ALSO lead to people proposing a literal copypaste of the abilities of an old CSAP profile of MINE to literally save those profiles:

Mithra missing abilities

Since Shinza Banshō is back, the profile are pretty messy and Mithra has no abilities or fully explained Attack Potency, so I would like to add these stuff on there. Changes: PrinceofPern's Blogs would be removed due to low quality. Old Profile New Profile

vsbattles.com

Moreover, not only your profiles haven't even been revised for over a year (which can be very well seen by the edit history of your blogs), but, as i've said before, lack many, many, of the infos that should be put in them (besides, it's impossible or all profiles to have been made since we recently got 20+ new characters from Entelecheia alone). Moreover, as i have announced more than 2 months ago in my previous message to avoid controversies like this one, i was going to revise everything. So no, you can't just show up randomly and decide to ignore everything that has been made by the combined work of more than 40 people to bring back pages that are collectively viewed as bad. Besides, like Shin, mentioned, Ultima approved this decision of mine:

Pein pls take accountability for this
Shinza and @Mugen-Kokutosho-Jigoku deserves an apology as well as all the other shinza guys

 

[PrinceofPein]

The state you left the verse in for the past 8 months is exactly what made this project of mine take the lead. Shinza was allowed to formally come back but the only thing that was made after that was a, if you don't mind me calling it like this, horrible attempt at bringing back very outdated pages full of broken links, misspellings, and with little to no abilities, which ALSO lead to people proposing a literal copypaste of the abilities of an old CSAP profile of MINE to literally save those profiles:

Mithra missing abilities

Since Shinza Banshō is back, the profile are pretty messy and Mithra has no abilities or fully explained Attack Potency, so I would like to add these stuff on there. Changes: PrinceofPern's Blogs would be removed due to low quality. Old Profile New Profile

vsbattles.com

Moreover, not only your profiles haven't even been revised for over a year (which can be very well seen by the edit history of your blogs), but, as i've said before, lack many, many, of the infos that should be put in them (besides, it's impossible or all profiles to have been made since we recently got 20+ new characters from Entelecheia alone). Moreover, as i have announced more than 2 months ago in my previous message to avoid controversies like this one, i was going to revise everything. So no, you can't just show up randomly and decide to ignore everything that has been made by the combined work of more than 40 people to bring back pages that are collectively viewed as bad. Besides, like Shin, mentioned, Ultima approved this decision of mine:

Again why are you mentioning Ultima approved of it, like it's supposed to mean something? Him approving you to create pages means nothing to be honest.

Again, like I said anyone is welcome to help or work on pages or create pages, really not something I mind.

 

[Mugen-Kokutosho-Jigoku]

Again why are you mentioning Ultima approved of it, like it's supposed to mean something? Him approving you to create pages means nothing to be honest.

Again, like I said anyone is welcome to help or work on pages or create pages, really not something I mind.

Re-read the screenshot

 

[PrinceofPein]

Pein pls take accountability for this
Shinza and @Mugen-Kokutosho-Jigoku deserves an apology as well as all the other shinza guys

Apology cause I got busy and had to leave a hobby of mine to care for myself? Dude please just find something else to say

 

[PrinceofPein]

Re-read the screenshot

What's there to read, do your thing no one is stopping you like I said and like Ultima also said you are allowed to do your thing. Just find it time wasting cause there are profiles already.
And no you can't see my edits or edits unless it's a blog so stop looking at old blogs that were abandoned.

Edit:You Waving his approval around like it means something is what I find funny is all

 

[Robo432343]

Apology cause I got busy and had to leave a hobby of mine to care for myself? Dude please just find something else to say

Moreover, not only your profiles haven't even been revised for over a year (which can be very well seen by the edit history of your blogs), but, as i've said before, lack many, many, of the infos that should be put in them (besides, it's impossible or all profiles to have been made since we recently got 20+ new characters from Entelecheia alone). Moreover, as i have announced more than 2 months ago in my previous message to avoid controversies like this one, i was going to revise everything. So no, you can't just show up randomly and decide to ignore everything that has been made by the combined work of more than 40 people to bring back pages that are collectively viewed as bad.

pls stop trying to dodge this

 

[Mugen-Kokutosho-Jigoku]

What's there to read, do your thing no one is stopping you like I said and like Ultima also said you are allowed to do your thing.
You Waving his approval around like jt means something is what I find funny is all

What i'm trying to say is not to interfere with my project by making the verse come back in such an incomplete state, but i suppose that you're indirectly approving of this so it's fine.

 

[PrinceofPein]

pls stop trying to dodge this

Please read and learn how sandbox work

And no you can't see my edits or edits unless it's a blog so stop looking at old blogs that were abandoned.

Some things never change even if you come back after a year to the wiki, some people still prefer to read to reply and not understand

 

[Hecky2222]

Anyone can see sandbox contributions

Unless you mean this vsbw.com forums which obviously you can't see

But question will be "Why tf you need CRT sandbox to make profile"

 

[Mugen-Kokutosho-Jigoku]

And no you can't see my edits or edits unless it's a blog so stop looking at old blogs that were abandoned.

I mean, unless you mean something else by "sandbox", your edits there would still appear in contributions so...

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/PrinceofPein

 

[PrinceofPein]

Anyone can see sandbox contributions

Unless you mean this vsbw.com forums which obviously you can't see

But question will be "Why tf you need CRT sandbox to make profile"

I don't know maybe cause of people like you who love to monitor every edit and what not. So we came up with better methods.

I mean, unless you mean something else by "sandbox", your edits there would still appear in contributions so...

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/PrinceofPein

^^^^^ read above



Anyway like I said, if anyone is good with wiki pages, please feel free to reach out, we need help with references, tabbers and creating some new pages. Thank you

 

[Hecky2222]

I don't know maybe cause of people like you who love to monitor every edit and what not. So we came up with better methods.

Like me what? Does this bro know how fandom sites work? Anyone can see contributions, blogs, sandboxes. Check my user profile

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Hecky2222

Literally sandbox edit here. It is not special for VSBW forum wiki. It is same for every wiki which works under fandom basis.

Unless you mean "I made blogs in other wiki, own doc" whatsover. I do find your claim about "You can't view my edits about sandbox here" very sus

 

[ExcelsisBerny]

With the help of the Mighty Pein, maybe we can get Low 2-C Reinhard after all

 

[BleedingPeach]

Do we all agree that Hadou Gods aren't omniscient? Because if they were, Hajun wouldn't be a surprise for Reinhard, Mercurius, Ren and Marie.

 

[Mbpoops]

and me

 

[Mugen-Kokutosho-Jigoku]

Do we all agree that Hadou Gods aren't omniscient? Because if they were, Hajun wouldn't be a surprise for Reinhard, Mercurius, Ren and Marie.

Gods possess a form of nigh-omniscience that is bound within the territory of their own law (which spans over a good chunk of the cosmology). That's pretty much it. Besides, your example doesn't really work because Marie directly states in Desatir that she knew about everything regarding the Samsara Vartin and the birth of Hajun but willingly decided not to do anything about it, leaving Ren and Mercurius ignorant on the matter. As for Reinhard, during the time of the Fifth Heaven he's but a normal human as we see in Omnia Vincit Amor so...he's obviously out of the equation.

 

[BleedingPeach]

Gods possess a form of nigh-omniscience that is bound within the territory of their own law (which spans over a good chunk of the cosmology). That's pretty much it. Besides, your example doesn't really work because Marie directly states in Desatir that she knew about everything regarding the Samsara Vartin and the birth of Hajun but willingly decided not to do anything about it, leaving Ren and Mercurius ignorant on the matter. As for Reinhard, during the time of the Fifth Heaven he's but a normal human as we see in Omnia Vincit Amor so...he's obviously out of the equation.

In terms of Nigh-Omniscience I can agree with you. In terms of the complete Omniscience, no. Hajun could be the strongest of the Hadou Gods but, for me, he's the dumbest of all. Couldn't he know that his Tumor was the meaning of not being alone? Couldn't he know that Habaki was his downfall?

 

[Mugen-Kokutosho-Jigoku]

In terms of Nigh-Omniscience I can agree with you. In terms of the complete Omniscience, no. Hajun could be the strongest of the Hadou Gods but, for me, he's the dumbest of all. Couldn't he know that his Tumor was the meaning of not being alone? Couldn't he know that Habaki was his downfall?

I, in fact, do not agree with the notion of Gods being completely omniscient. As for Hajun, the whole point of his character is that his own narcissism and self-love makes him blind and ignorant to the external world, making him refuse to even acknowledge the existence of others (Tengu-Do is described as "darkness of ignorance" multiple times, wiped away by the "light" of Shokō Mandala). Besides, if we wanna be specific, he's directly stated to be ******** so...yeah, not exactly the best example.

 

[Tarang123]

I think i'll probably announce it here to avoid controversies later on.

Due to the current state of Shinza Banshō on the wiki, i'm planning to make revisions of the entire series this summer, ranging from the cosmology page to every single one of the profiles (going through physiology pages and even supplementary explanations addressing misconceptions about the verse). I am knowledgable about the series and possess a Fantia subscription as well (i also possess links to every single piece of content you could possibly need of). I'm already gathering supporters for this project, so in case you're fine with it, i wouldn't mind your help in organizing things. Make sure to reply if you want to participate and help!

Pretty late, but is there a way to contact you about the project or nah?

 

[Mugen-Kokutosho-Jigoku]

Pretty late, but is there a way to contact you about the project or nah?

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[BleedingPeach]

Wether you'll agree or not… I saw Ren x Marie as a nice shipping.

 

[Tarang123]

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