Shinza banshou discussion thread~Revival~

[Arkenis]

Bump. WHo is working on the pages?

 

[Infera28]

technically yes, I'm pretty sure a mod said 1A can be reached the same way it was with the old system, thing is that the old arguments used weren't that good ngl(same for Yuri's downgrade)

If Ultima's revision goes through, then yeah probably

Transcending concept of space will be 1-A again?

 

[Infera28]

Nvm I read the revision thread. Yes, it can be said that Gods are qualitatively beyond concepts and dualities. Taiji is kinda the undifferentiated source of everything that is qualitatively different from everything it creates, and they are fiction compared to Taiji

 

[PrinceofPein]

Also since monads are 0, let Naraka wanks begin

 

[GarrixianXD]

Naraka

Naraka Bladepoint?

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Also since monads are 0, let Naraka wanks begin

monads are 1 actually in philosophy
Greek metaphysics believed that 1 is the supreme number because it is singular and simple, and all numbers that come after it is subordinate to it and dependent on it as their foundation including infinity itself. Basically divine simplicity as it confirms god is just one part.
Even in neoplatonism they call god as "The One" because it is a solution to the problem of one over many

 

[PrinceofPein]

monads are 1 actually in philosophy
Greek metaphysics believed that 1 is the supreme number because it is singular and simple, and all numbers that come after it is subordinate to it and dependent on it as their foundation including infinity itself. Basically divine simplicity as it confirms god is just one part.
Even in neoplatonism they call god as "The One" because it is a solution to the problem of one over many

I mean tier 0 not 0 as a number

 

[PrinceofPein]

Naraka Bladepoint?

Idg

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Nvm I read the revision thread. Yes, it can be said that Gods are qualitatively beyond concepts and dualities. Taiji is kinda the undifferentiated source of everything that is qualitatively different from everything it creates, and they are fiction compared to Taiji

I just remembered that Yuri downgraded transduality for Gods saying all the Twilight Beach statements were "flowery text" (which I don't really see), so that's something we should anticipate needing to counter (or we could use other justifications like Mitra's statements).

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

The fact that Taiji exist in KKK makes the gods transduality even solid.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Funny but shinza uses neoplatonic ideas a lot, albit not effectively.
Eg Emanation, which is a neoplatonic term where creation flows out of the one aka a more refined idea of the pythageorean monad. Shinza gods emanate and flow taikyoku from themselves . And neoplatonism is one of the most well known ideas of divine simplicity. Sounds similar?

 

[Reizen23]

Transcending concept of space will be 1-A again?

Technically yes(btw left Shinza so won't answer much)

 

[PrinceofPein]

Technically yes(btw left Shinza so won't answer much)

Why did you leave?

 

[Reizen23]

Why did you leave?

I noticed that I focused more on shinza rather than my Bible study and it kept leading me away from it for months, so I decided to leave and now I effectively study the Bible with more efficiency and with more free time

 

[PrinceofPein]

I noticed that I focused more on shinza rather than my Bible study and it kept leading me away from it for months, so I decided to leave and now I effectively study the Bible with more efficiency and with more free time

Okay bro, take care.