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Shin vs Gohan (GRACE)
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When Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and Shin were in the ship waiting for Dabura, Vegeta says that from what he could see Dabura is comparable to Cell, then Goku says that Dabura didn't show his true strength yet he has the same strength as Cell, Goku and Vegeta can't be referring to Super Perfect Cell, because the Gohan SSJ2 from the Cell games was on par with Super Perfect Cell, and the Gohan SSJ2 who fought Dabura is much weaker than the Gohan who fought Cell and Dabura is comparable to Perfect Cell.
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Yes, it was added especially because many had doubts about the power of the Kaio Shins.
Nullflowerblush
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It's an officially licensed (Shueisha and Bird Studio) collection of magazine-slash-databooks that give an extra look into the original manga and the story.
It is kinda like if the Daizenshuu 2 and the Daizenshuu 7 had a kid and taught it Spanish.
Most of the information is solid, too, and is backed up by the manga and other databooks as well -- this might just because they played it safe though.
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SSJ2 Gohan from cell games stomps super perfect cell. Vegeta is clearly comparing buu saga SSJ2 gohan to cell saga SSJ2 gohan, why would he ever compare SSJ to SSJ2?
I see, so it should be reliable thanks.
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Cuz Dabura is only Comparable to Perfect Cell, not Super Perfect Cell
Nullflowerblush
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Hear me out, guys.
Maybe Gohan was a regular Super Saiyan during the battle with Dabura, and Dabura was just playing around with Gohan, like how Cell played around with Gohan. And, maybe Gohan's power did not suddenly drop because he neglected training, but realistically just stagnated. And, what if Perfect Cell = Dabura > Super Saiyan Adult Gohan = Super Saiyan Gohan.
Maybe Gohan was a regular Super Saiyan during the battle with Dabura, and Dabura was just playing around with Gohan, like how Cell played around with Gohan. And, maybe Gohan's power did not suddenly drop because he neglected training, but realistically just stagnated. And, what if Perfect Cell = Dabura > Super Saiyan Adult Gohan = Super Saiyan Gohan.
Nullflowerblush
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funny 'cause everything i said was gathered up from the manga and databooks
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no there're many things wrong with that.
Nullflowerblush
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Really.
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I'm leaning toward Gohan here, but when it was stated that Cell Games SSJ Goku = Shin?
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Okay so Dabura is equal to perfect cell on here instead of super perfect cell for some reason, but if ssj2 gohan in buu saga is even with Dabura and ssj gohan during Cell saga isn't even with Perfect Cell, then Shin can just restrain Gohan with his telekinesis. Also, I think Gohan did go ssj2 against Dabura because if he didn't, ssj1 Gohan in Buu saga > ssj1 Gohan in Cell Saga as Dabura = Perfect Cell
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Alright. Then SSJ Gohan > SSJ Goku as even when Goku was showing 50% of his power, Gohan just stood there and was shocked of how weak it was, saying that there's no way a power like that is half of Goku's power, and even after Goku fought all out against Cell, Gohan still thought he was holding back as he couldn't believe Goku's full power is much weaker than his
That proves that Gohan is much stronger than Goku, and also as an extention stronger than Shin too, meaning Gohan easily takes this
That proves that Gohan is much stronger than Goku, and also as an extention stronger than Shin too, meaning Gohan easily takes this
Nullflowerblush
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Again, Dabura was not serious during their battle. When the two of them confronted each other again, Dabura was confident in being able to defeat him -- their first battle was just Dabura testing Gohan.
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So is ssj2 Gohan in Buu saga weaker than ssj1 gohan cell saga? Also Shin can easily TK people stronger than him.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Wasn't that easily. It took a lot of effort from Shin to restrain Gohan
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So I guess if Shin TKs him he wouldn't be able to hurt Gohan because it weakens him? Then Gohan wins
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He was not SS2 during that fight, god.
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Yeah I get that now, I was under the impression before that Dabura was going all out against Gohan
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I vote to Gohan FRA.
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Yeah
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I don't where they said. But the main argument was that shin was equal to SSJ goku. And in the cell saga goku says gohan SSJ 1 Gohan is stronger than him
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how tho
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I mean unthough gohan has the Ap advantage, and maybe skill. Shin has things like telekinesis and healing. And if this is consider a stomp then the coincidence of vegeta vs goku is also a stomp. So i don't think its a stomp.
