Shigaraki vs Muzan

[Mazdoesstuff]

Strongest forms for both, speed is equalized. Even though Tomura’s AP should easily oneshot, both characters have considerable dura neg. Who wins?

Profiles:

Tomura Shigaraki (Pre-Surgery)

Tomura Shigaraki (死柄木 弔 Shigaraki Tomura), original name Tenko Shimura (志村転弧 Shimura Tenko), was the protégé of All For One and the leader of the League of Villains. A dangerously unstable individual who looks up to his "Sensei" with the utmost awe and respect, Shigaraki plans on tearing down...

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Muzan Kibutsuji

Muzan Kibutsuji (鬼き舞ぶ辻つじ 無む惨ざん, Kibutsuji Muzan?) is the main antagonist of Kimetsu no Yaiba. He is the King of Demons, the first of his kind, as well as the progenitor of all other demons in existence. Muzan is also the leader of the Twelve Kizuki, an organization of the twelve strongest demons...

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[Mapl3Sy4up]

If this is SBA then Shigaraki wins, he has Kilometers of decay that Muzan can't touch and I don't know if Muzan can jump for that long

 

[TheRustyOne]

Muzan dura negation works by getting his blood into another person. He lacks the AP to cut Shigaraki, so how is he going to get his blood inside of him?

Does he have the ability to teleport his blood into other people, or can it just be absorbed through the skin?

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Muzan dura negation works by getting his blood into another person. He lacks the AP to cut Shigaraki, so how is he going to get his blood inside of him?

Does he have the ability to teleport his blood into other people, or can it just be absorbed through the skin?

It's absorbed through an open wound (as described by Ch. and Ep. 1) Shigaraki wins no matter what because of his KMs of Decay

 

[TheRustyOne]

So Shigaraki stomps?

I'd like to hear from Demon Slayer supporters before making that judgement.

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

So Shigaraki stomps?

I'd like to hear from Demon Slayer supporters before making that judgement.

I believe so?

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

It's absorbed through an open wound (as described by Ch. and Ep. 1) Shigaraki wins no matter what because of his KMs of Decay

Is Shiggy going to automatically start with decay?

 

[Mazdoesstuff]

(I believe Shiggy oneshots easily but I’m gonna play devils advocate)

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Is Shiggy going to automatically start with decay?

Yeah it's his opening move against opponents who can't fly

 

[TheRustyOne]

Is Shiggy going to automatically start with decay?

Literally the first thing he does unless his opponent is flying.

Woke up after being asleep for months... decayed the majority of the city.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

No tags? No tags!? TAAAAAAAGS!!

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

This is a serious stomp. Even if they started from like 1 meter away Shigaraki wins cause Muzan can't harm him to inject his blood and Muzan gets touched.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I suggest to make the distance slower, standard SBA range aren't the best

EDIT: Nvm it looks like Shigaraki stomp here

 

[Razor]

Will muzan's aura affect shigaraki?

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

That won't change much.

 

[Razor]

It'll paralyze him

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Remind me that i need to publish Kokushibo vs Chisaki today

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Will muzan's aura affect shigaraki?

Maybe? Assuming it does Muzan still can't harm Shiggy and therefore can't kill him at best that makes an incon and that's assuming Shigaraki doesn't still decay.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Oh... "Overwhelming Aura that causes the opponent fear and paralysis with them feeling the air getting heavier, and can even cause internal bleeding and external lacerations"

Does Muzan passively paralyze people who lack resistance? Is this a stomp in the other direction?

 

[Razor]

Wouldn't a situation where one character can't do anything against the other count as incap?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Folks, KnY aura isn't an auto-win like Reiatsu

 

[Razor]

Oh... "Overwhelming Aura that causes the opponent fear and paralysis with them feeling the air getting heavier, and can even cause internal bleeding and external lacerations"

Does Muzan passively paralyze people who lack resistance? Is this a stomp in the other direction?

Even characters with resistance gets affected by it

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Considering Shigaraki's chaotic personality the aura will not affect him, as it is possible to restore sanity by keeping calm or ignoring fear

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Oh... "Overwhelming Aura that causes the opponent fear and paralysis with them feeling the air getting heavier, and can even cause internal bleeding and external lacerations"

Does Muzan passively paralyze people who lack resistance? Is this a stomp in the other direction?

Demon Slayer has a whole fear aura scaling thing but the fear resistance shown in kny doesn't really compare to making people hallucinate death passively.

 

[Razor]

Akaza had a chaotic personality as well, And the slayers had supernatural willpower. Plus Muzan's aura scales above other villains in KnY so its not fodder fear aura

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Again, not an auto-win like Reiatsu thats for sure

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Akaza had a chaotic personality as well, And the slayers had supernatural willpower. Plus Muzan's aura scales above other villains in KnY so its not fodder fear aura

Shigaraki overcame biological death by hatred and makes people with supernatural willpower see their own deaths. KnY's fear manip isn't fodder but it's not comparable to Shiggy or AFO.

Even if Shigaraki gets paralysed or scared. He'll more than likely back away and decay Muzan.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Akaza had a chaotic personality as well, And the slayers had supernatural willpower. Plus Muzan's aura scales above other villains in KnY so its not fodder fear aura

I have already explained that. Characters who were not affected by Muzan's aura were affected by Koku's, proving that what happened to Akaza was just something that works only with demons

https://vsbattles.com/threads/dio-brando-vs-tanjiro-kamado.127407/post-4297400

 

[Razor]

"See their own deaths" So basically they're putting them under an illusion? Or do they actually Die. also if shigaraki resists this level of fear manip why isn't on his profile, this sounds like a very big deal

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Which version of Shigaraki that being used here?

 

[Razor]

I have already explained that. Characters who were not affected by Muzan's aura were affected by Koku's, proving that what happened to Akaza was just something that works only with demons

https://vsbattles.com/threads/dio-brando-vs-tanjiro-kamado.127407/post-4297400

Gyomei and sanemi wasn't affected by neither, and Mui and genya never made it past kokushibo so idk what you're talking about

 

[Nierre]

Shigaraki overcame biological death by hatred and makes people with supernatural willpower see their own deaths.

Is this via fear manip or what

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Is this via fear manip or what

Illusion inducement

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

"See their own deaths" So basically they're putting them under an illusion? Or do they actually Die. also if shigaraki resists this level of fear manip why isn't on his profile, this sounds like a very big deal

Essentially the fear creates that hallucination yeah.

He really should.

Is this via fear manip or what

I was giving a willpower feat but the illusion thing is fear manip

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Which version of Shigaraki that being used here?

 

[Mapl3Sy4up]

Afo

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Gyomei and sanemi wasn't affected by neither, and Mui and genya never made it past kokushibo so idk what you were talking about

That is not an argument. Tokito is attacking Muzan and was not affected by the aura, but he was in the fight against Koku. Muzan's aura has never been explicitly useful in combat against characters who aren't demon. This is pure wank

 

[Razor]

That is not an argument. Tokito is attacking Muzan and was not affected by the aura, but he was in the fight against Koku. Muzan's aura has never been explicitly useful in combat against characters who aren't. This is pure wank

Toktiko was attacking muzan? when? He literally never encountered muzan, he died in the koku fight.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Toktiko was attacking muzan?

You really haven't seen my scans

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Afo