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Shibuya Yuji Upgrades

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There's 2 main things I've seen that would definitely bring up Shibuya yujis stats which is important for later scaling one of them seems somewhat obvious to me while the other I'm not 100% certain of

First off Shibuya Yuji's Max power Black Flash one shot an (albeit already weakened) Instant spirit body of distorted killing Mahito which is on his profile but its only listed as "Higher"

even higher with Max Power Black Flash (Is his Black Flash imbued with his maximum cursed energy and completely destroyed Mahito's Instant Spirit Body of Distorted Killing)
I think that would put his Max Power black flash at at least City Block level+ due to how strong Mahito's ISBODK was, he might be Multi-City Block level but I'll let the comments decide that, it also makes sense from an upscaling standpoint, Shibuya Yuji (City Block level) < Black Flash < Max Power Black Flash

The second was Yuji dodging piercing blood which couldn't use anything above Subsonic+ because of Naoya's Mach 3 Statements, although as I stated above im not 100% certain because we still don't know how much piercing blood decelerates however considering the calc, even when using half of piercing bloods travel speed, it still put Yuji at Transonic and Yuji states he can dodge it 50% of the time so 50% speed seems reasonable to me (the calc used Mach 1 for the speed despite it being Mach 1.5 so the 80% end still works)


A counter arguments to this:

"But Naobito is the second fastest and he's only subsonic+!"

Naobito is the 2nd fastest, but that's a travel speed feat, his reactions are likely higher especially when human Naoya is already put at Transonic and Naobito is supposed to be faster than him

AP:

City Block level+ Base Yuji:

Agree: Anonymous_Learner

Disagree:

Multi-City Block level Max Output Black Flash Yuji:

Agree: Anonymous_Learner, Shey

Disagree:

Speed:

Yuji Transonic reactions:

Agree: Anonymous_Learner

Disagree: Shey

(Also Naobito should already be at transonic imo so I'm just gonna put this here)

Naobito Transonic speed:


Agree: Anonymous_Learner

Disagree:

Oh yeah and for how this would effect scaling, all grade 1 sorcerers and High-Special grade cursed spirits would scale to Transonic reactions, this list would include Transformed Dagon (Base form probably downscales to Subsonic+ due to naoya blitzing), Jogo, Mahito, Hanami (Maybe), Choso, and every Grade 1 Sorcerer

This also lines up with Yuta saying Yuji is fast, as he gets faster during Extermination arc making him Supersonic, and there's no reason to say yuta was holding back in terms of speed because unlike AP, if he doesn't hold back his speed he wont just kill Yuji

Plus Yuji and Choso can still somewhat react to Supersonic+ characters like 16F Meguna and Yuta, they clearly aren't as fast but they aren't getting blitzed
 
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Some other support for this is that there's other Subsonic+ characters who are below Yuji and Naobito in terms of speed
 
I personally believe Yuji should've already been city block level+ due to his durability, but no matter. I agree that MBF should be multi-city block and i'll agree with the transonic stuff a bit more hesitantly.
JJK speed scaling is such a mess
 
Ok I'm going to bed now so if there's any new comments I cant add votes for another 7-ish hours
 
Agree with 8-A BF
The second was Yuji dodging piercing blood which couldn't use anything above Subsonic+ because of Naoya's Mach 3 Statements, although as I stated above im not 100% certain because we still don't know how much piercing blood decelerates however considering the calc, even when using half of piercing bloods travel speed, it still put Yuji at Transonic and Yuji states he can dodge it 50% of the time so 50% speed seems reasonable to me (the calc used Mach 1 for the speed despite it being Mach 1.5 so the 80% end still works)

Iirc this calc was rejected because the distances were wrong, since it assumes Yuji fully dodged PB when in reality it scraped his face. Infact we already have an updated PS calc in his profile that is way lower (which also calculates PB's decelaration)
 
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Agree with 8-A Yuji with Max Power BF, makes perfect sense
Disagree with Yuji Transonic reactions for similar reasons to Gianny's and more

Isn't Naobito already Transonic what's that about?
 
Isn't Naobito already Transonic what's that about?
I'm guessing that he's saying his base speed should be transonic and his PS speed should be higher due to being the the fastest sorcerer of the modern era.
Idk tho, just taking a guess)
 
I'm guessing that he's saying his base speed should be transonic and his PS speed should be higher due to being the the fastest sorcerer of the modern era.
Idk tho, just taking a guess)
I don't agree with that at all, the portrayal doesn't line up
 
The second was Yuji dodging piercing blood which couldn't use anything above Subsonic+ because of Naoya's Mach 3 Statements, although as I stated above im not 100% certain because we still don't know how much piercing blood decelerates however considering the calc, even when using half of piercing bloods travel speed, it still put Yuji at Transonic and Yuji states he can dodge it 50% of the time so 50% speed seems reasonable to me (the calc used Mach 1 for the speed despite it being Mach 1.5 so the 80% end still works)
This logic is awful
 
"Fastest Sorcerer in the modern era (Except for Satoru Gojo, of course)"
Slower than all competent special grades sorcerers...

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If I'm being honest, the speed thing was always a stretch, I never actually expected most people to agree to it
 
Reminder Uraume thought Supersonic piercing blood was fast, the same speeds Womb Naoya would run circles around
Fast be whatever gege feels like
Cursed Womb Naoya is supersonic tho. Also I feel you are just kinda proving that the top tiers speed is ass
 
Well, we still got Shubuya yuji AP upgrades

No one can deny City Block level+ and Multi-City Block level with max output Black flash because he outright beats people who have those stats
 
Or just immediately edit the page saying, "Damages City Block level+ hanami and mahito"
 
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