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Shadow vs Queen Zeal
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She resists space-time manipulation?
Ok, then Shadow via AP, teleport spam, Indigo Asteroid, and BFR with Chaos Rift.
@MYHERO No offense but that vote is very lazy.
Ok, then Shadow via AP, teleport spam, Indigo Asteroid, and BFR with Chaos Rift.
@MYHERO No offense but that vote is very lazy.
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You based your vote off a vague "ignores conventional durability" when that's what any person with hax does.
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Zeal leads with Halation, which instantly puts Shadow near death and is AoE. Chaos Rift is useless on Zeal given her connection with the flea.
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"Chaos Rift is useless."
Not when you don't forget about the insta-kill/KO aspect of it.
Not when you don't forget about the insta-kill/KO aspect of it.
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To be fair, Shadow has the Replenisher and healing items from Sonic Chronicles. Unless it keeps him at near-death (I don't know how it works, sorry), it's nothing that passive healing can't fix.
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Or you know, he can just spam teleport and beat the snot out of her like he did to Infinite. He has the AP advantage after all.
Shadow can also heal himself via Chaos Control in Sonic Battle.
Shadow can also heal himself via Chaos Control in Sonic Battle.
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Clear case of game mechanics.ShadowWarrior1999 said:
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Halation must be game mechanics as well.
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Given I highly doubt passive healing instantly brings Shadow anywhere near mid, let alone full, as it's gradual, it doesn't stop Zeal from following up with another powerful attack.ShakeResounding said:
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^Answer this Cal.ShadowWarrior1999 said:
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False equivalency. It's obvious the insta-ko aspect comes from the BFR. Sheer Cold from Pokemon's OHKO aspect comes from Absolute Zero, for example. Someone resists ABZ, it's not gonna one-shot them anyway. This is clearly more analogous to that.ShadowWarrior1999 said:
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^Answer this Cal.
It's a good point. Problem is, Shadow needs to beat down Zeal, when Zeal needs Halation or Life Shaver, again, moves she spams, to lower Shadow to the point that Energy Spheres will kill him. Zeal teleports often too, so telespam's not 100% effective. Zeal's more experienced as well, being millions of years old. MP Buster also shuts down Shadow, keeping him from doing literally anything but fisticuffs.
It's a good point. Problem is, Shadow needs to beat down Zeal, when Zeal needs Halation or Life Shaver, again, moves she spams, to lower Shadow to the point that Energy Spheres will kill him. Zeal teleports often too, so telespam's not 100% effective. Zeal's more experienced as well, being millions of years old. MP Buster also shuts down Shadow, keeping him from doing literally anything but fisticuffs.
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1) Shadow spams the Chaos Rift in Chronicles against Sonic. Sonic can't touch them otherwise it's instant KO.
2) Not only can Shadow teleport spam, but he can also hide himself in distorted space (see Chaos Burst). He also has the advantage in range, that being planetary vs hundreds of kilometers, and he is willing to play the range game.
2) Not only can Shadow teleport spam, but he can also hide himself in distorted space (see Chaos Burst). He also has the advantage in range, that being planetary vs hundreds of kilometers, and he is willing to play the range game.
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What? The game's a JRPG to the best of my knowledge. How can Sonic actively dodge something in a JRPG?
I've looked up Chaos Burst, which doesn't even seem that useful unless Zeal gets in Melee range, and given she has absolutely zero Melee attacks, it won't help. I also promise you Shadow won't use planetary range.
I've looked up Chaos Burst, which doesn't even seem that useful unless Zeal gets in Melee range, and given she has absolutely zero Melee attacks, it won't help. I also promise you Shadow won't use planetary range.
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The rifts don't visibly move, Sonic has to jump over them.
It's useful for Shadow to hide himself so she can't detect him, then come out for a sneak attack.
Shadow abused range against Solaris, using nothing but Spear of Light to damage him without getting close. So yes, he can use range to his advantage here.
It's useful for Shadow to hide himself so she can't detect him, then come out for a sneak attack.
Shadow abused range against Solaris, using nothing but Spear of Light to damage him without getting close. So yes, he can use range to his advantage here.
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I still don't change my statement.
One, Zeal can see his Shadow, and two, Shadow can only walk/run while doing that.
You know darn well what I meant. Shadow will not use planetary range under any circumstance.
One, Zeal can see his Shadow, and two, Shadow can only walk/run while doing that.
You know darn well what I meant. Shadow will not use planetary range under any circumstance.
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The "shadow" you speak of is just the spot holder so the player knows where Shadow is. Also not true, as Shadow is clearly capable of warping to attack opponents in mid-air.
"Shadow will not use planetary range under any circumstance."
Even though I proved it's in-character for him to use ranged attacks.
"Shadow will not use planetary range under any circumstance."
Even though I proved it's in-character for him to use ranged attacks.
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The shadow I speak of is what is shown. You're interpreting things different from what they're shown to be to make Shaodw seem more OP. If Shadow has a Shadow during that attack and can't do anything else but move, then tough luck. That's what was shown.
Goku uses ranged attacks in character. I guess he'll spam universe crossing blasts then from the other side of the universe.
Sorry if I'm being rude, btw.
Goku uses ranged attacks in character. I guess he'll spam universe crossing blasts then from the other side of the universe.
Sorry if I'm being rude, btw.
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The "interpretation" is consistency with other games where he teleports and doesn't leave a shadow. The Chaos Burst is just an example of how Shadow can hide in distorted space before coming out of teleportation.
Fine, got me there.
Fine, got me there.
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