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Spinoirr

He/Him
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Rules
Speed is equal
Both are Low 1-C
Fight takes place in a desert in Vacuo

Shadow: 2 (omegabronic, Epsilon_R)
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Pneuma: 3 (CloverDragon03, Joycap, Eseseso)
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It is, since Shadow can just negate it, whereas he has no way of killing someone with high godly regen. However, Pneuma can negate Shadow's invulnerabillity and one shot him with layered deconstruction. How does that decontruction activate? Does it require physical contact?
 
It is, since Shadow can just negate it, whereas he has no way of killing someone with high godly regen. However, Pneuma can negate Shadow's invulnerabillity and one shot him with layered deconstruction. How does that decontruction activate? Does it require physical contact?
It's a massive F U laser lol

That comes from space or one of her portals
 
That seems like a more reliable win con than Shadow's concep manip/temporal AOE, especially since Shadow's precog gets negated here. On the other hand, Shadow does tend to lead with Chaos control, which is layered time hax Pneuma doesn't resist. If he takes advantage of that opening to exploit his one win condition, he takes it. If not, Pneuma wins
 
Yeah, I'd give the point to Pneuma here. Reality manip is something I don't think Shadow has many options for, not to my knowledge anyway (I could be wrong here).
 
For my money, Shadow's wincon (as Pepto pointed out) seems less reliable than Pneuma's. Shadow's comes from things that would take more time as opposed to Pneuma nuking him with Siren lasers

Also Pneuma does have her own Time Manipulation. That's worth keeping in mind
 
For my money, Shadow's wincon (as Pepto pointed out) seems less reliable than Pneuma's. Shadow's comes from things that would take more time as opposed to Pneuma nuking him with Siren lasers

Also Pneuma does have her own Time Manipulation. That's worth keeping in mind
Unless it's also layered, that shouldn't be an issue for Shadow, but overall the odds don't seem in his favor either way
 
Unless it's also layered, that shouldn't be an issue for Shadow, but overall the odds don't seem in his favor either way
Unfortunately it doesn't look like that's the case for Pneuma. Still, while I think Shadow's got a good possibility of winning, further examination gives me the opinion that Pneuma takes it more often than not

So, I'm voting Pneuma
 
Shadow's Aura is explosive, meaning that the deconstruction laser would need to be very strong to bypass the Aura blowing it away before it touches Shadow, and considering the conceptual and ND nature of Chaos Energy(the energy his Aura is made of) i don't think she can hax the aura away(dunno anything about Xenobalde, if they have ND stuff i would like to know) and since Shadow tends to lead with Chaos Control, once he stops her in time he can just start to attack her until she dies since her Regen is being assumed to be Low Godly here by the OP

also that he can dodge the deconstruction laser with his Blitz in character speed amps to just hit her once and win due to(i assume) superior AP due to scaling

i will vote for Shadow for now, can change my vote based on other arguments tho
 
I'll vote Shadow

He'll most likely use Chaos Control right off the bat, if Pneuma has no resistance I don't think she can pull a dub before that happens
 
Shadow's Aura is explosive, meaning that the deconstruction laser would need to be very strong to bypass the Aura blowing it away before it touches Shadow, and considering the conceptual and ND nature of Chaos Energy(the energy his Aura is made of) i don't think she can hax the aura away(dunno anything about Xenobalde, if they have ND stuff i would like to know) and since Shadow tends to lead with Chaos Control, once he stops her in time he can just start to attack her until she dies since her Regen is being assumed to be Low Godly here by the OP

also that he can dodge the deconstruction laser with his Blitz in character speed amps to just hit her once and win due to(i assume) superior AP due to scaling

i will vote for Shadow for now, can change my vote based on other arguments tho
Is this ND stuff currently on Shadow's profile?
 
Following. Also, can someone explain what ND means?

One thing I will say is that Shadow almost always uses Chaos Control in combat and Shadow has experience dodging lasers, so is there a chance he can dodge it even with equalized speed
 
Additionally, what is the power boost Shadow gets without his limiters? I know it doesn’t say he took them off, but that is something he can do
 
Following. Also, can someone explain what ND means?

One thing I will say is that Shadow almost always uses Chaos Control in combat and Shadow has experience dodging lasers, so is there a chance he can dodge it even with equalized speed
ND = Nonduality
 
It's not. I think Shadow's profile may be out of date (hell, his aura isn't even listed as explosive)
Can we even assume that Super Shadow has all of the same powers as Super Sonic? If that's the case, all Super forms should have the energy constructs Sonic uses in Frontiers boss fights.

It's probably best to save this for a CRT and focus on what's actually in the profiles for this match, is it not?
 
Can we even assume that Super Shadow has all of the same powers as Super Sonic? If that's the case, all Super forms should have the energy constructs Sonic uses in Frontiers boss fights.

It's probably best to save this for a CRT and focus on what's actually in the profiles for this match, is it not?
Probably, yeah. To begin with, I don't even think we can use any abilities that are not on profiles
 
Can we even assume that Super Shadow has all of the same powers as Super Sonic? If that's the case, all Super forms should have the energy constructs Sonic uses in Frontiers boss fights.

It's probably best to save this for a CRT and focus on what's actually in the profiles for this match, is it not?
Chaos Energy page is on the making, don't you worry about that, just need a few things out of the way first before making a CRT on it is all...........it is just taking a while for the said things to get done with
 
How high does Pneuma scale into 6D? Shadow definitely upscales to the point that one time stop would be enough to one shot a baseline opponent
 
From what I remember, Pneuma's got a pretty massive scaling chain, but I don't know the specifics
 
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