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Shadow Slave Discussion Thread

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Some time ago, I created the verse page for Shadow Slave, but I haven’t had much time to flesh it out. With the series gaining massive popularity and a manhwa adaptation now in the works, I thought this would be a good opportunity to create a general discussion thread. Hopefully, we can gather more people to help out with the Shadow Slave pages.

 
IIRC there are more than hundred Saints, not few dozens (doesn't affect the context there but still)
 
IIRC there are more than hundred Saints, not few dozens (doesn't affect the context there but still)
thats after the third nightmare
 
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why? Please explain
Seeming frozen can be due massive speed difference. For example in Sunny vs Dire Fang fight, except each other and lightning in background, everything were frozen to them. Same thing could be here.

Also it wasn't really "light from the Sun" that was motionless(like you wrote in the blog), but the Sun.

I haven't read chs from 2244 2344 so maybe it's me missing something🤷 But I don't think there's enough evidence for infinite speed.
 
Seeming frozen can be due massive speed difference. For example in Sunny vs Dire Fang fight, except each other and lightning in background, everything were frozen to them. Same thing could be here.

Also it wasn't really "light from the Sun" that was motionless(like you wrote in the blog), but the Sun.

I haven't read chs from 2244 2344 so maybe it's me missing something🤷 But I don't think there's enough evidence for infinite speed.
The feat is quite literal. It's saying the wolf moved with speed that made concept of time irrelevant flat out no caveat. Then it keeps emphasizing that there was no time at all and that even terms like a split second lost its meaning.
 
Seeming frozen can be due massive speed difference. For example in Sunny vs Dire Fang fight, except each other and lightning in background, everything were frozen to them. Same thing could be here.

Also it wasn't really "light from the Sun" that was motionless(like you wrote in the blog), but the Sun.

I haven't read chs from 2244 2344 so maybe it's me missing something🤷 But I don't think there's enough evidence for infinite speed.
If the statement is not a hyperbole then it does qualify for infinite speed.
 
The feat is quite literal. It's saying the wolf moved with speed that made concept of time irrelevant flat out no caveat. Then it keeps emphasizing that there was no time at all and that even terms like a split second lost its meaning.
Am guessing it is just gonna be reaction speed for sunny? Am not currently up to date with ss but i personally would find it hard to believe sunny moving at that kind of speed 😅.

Is this the recent chapter?
 
The feat is quite literal. It's saying the wolf moved with speed that made concept of time irrelevant flat out no caveat.
Infinite speed doesn't make concept of time irrelevant/meaningless either? (not sure about this part tbh)
Then it keeps emphasizing that there was no time at all and that even terms like a split second lost its meaning.
"whatever it meant now" it's just his internal time sense being different than static observer's.
 
"whatever it meant now" it's just his internal time sense being different than static observer's.
I wouldn't say it being infinite speed is very far fetched either when not too long ago Sunny was fighting a cursed NMC who had power over the concept of infinity and could grow to a potential size of infinity.
 
I wouldn't say it being infinite speed is very far fetched either when not too long ago Sunny was fighting a cursed NMC who had power over the concept of infinity and could grow to a potential size of infinity.
If you're about that Cursed Beast then beginning of the fight is literally where my last read was lol. I'm not reading it in english so I'm a little behind from ongoing
 
Does the moth fight not make the infinite speed crt invalid. Making time actually stop takes a toll on a cursed tyrant (two classes above the wolf) and neither it nor sunny was able to move during this period, with sunny only being able to move by strengthening the absolute law of time again.
 
Does the moth fight not make the infinite speed crt invalid. Making time actually stop takes a toll on a cursed tyrant (two classes above the wolf) and neither it nor sunny was able to move during this period, with sunny only being able to move by strengthening the absolute law of time again.
How are those two related? Moth was slowing down time.
 
Does the moth fight not make the infinite speed crt invalid. Making time actually stop takes a toll on a cursed tyrant (two classes above the wolf) and neither it nor sunny was able to move during this period, with sunny only being able to move by strengthening the absolute law of time again.
probably makes it invalid imo. just a speed amp via time manip
How are those two related? Moth was slowing down time.
What's the point in slowing down time if you could just do something better and see and do stuff in no time at all.
 
What's the point in slowing down time if you could just do something better and see and do stuff in no time at all.
It's not necessary every cursed ncs will be able to do the same thing as the wolf. Wolf was able to make everything it's prey. Moth was just a spirit of Doubt. And anyway even if moth was able to do that it would have not saved him from sunny
 
Does the moth fight not make the infinite speed crt invalid. Making time actually stop takes a toll on a cursed tyrant (two classes above the wolf) and neither it nor sunny was able to move during this period, with sunny only being able to move by strengthening the absolute law of time again.
Yeah. Even if Moth shouldn't necessarily be as fast as Wolf, slowing down time shouldn't even affect Sunny at all if he has inf speed.
 
Yeah. Even if Moth shouldn't necessarily be as fast as Wolf, slowing down time shouldn't even affect Sunny at all if he has inf speed.
Btw for that time stop resistance is needed. Infinite speed don't nesscerlily gives that. And from story's logic, moth have stronger Will so for sunny resisting it would be difficult.
 
Btw for that time stop resistance is needed. Infinite speed don't nesscerlily gives that. And from story's logic, moth have stronger Will so for sunny resisting it would be difficult.
Moth doesn't stop time, it just slows down time so much everything seems to be stopped. So yeah it shouldn't affect Sunny he has inf speed.
 
Moth doesn't stop time, it just slows down time so much everything seems to be stopped. So yeah it shouldn't affect Sunny he has inf speed.
Yes it slowed it to extreme level by conceptual manipulation. Also Sunny's speed was works in specific ways from how i understand it that wolf can make anything it's prey and it does that with time, considering it as it's prey it amplified it's speed to that extent and sunny as a hunter fight back with his own will. Although in that moth case it would require resistance to cm
 
Yes it slowed it to extreme level by conceptual manipulation.
Although in that moth case it would require resistance to cm
It doesn't matter how it was done and what else could help Sunny bypass it, we know that it shouldn't affect him due to his sheer speed and that's enough.
Also Sunny's speed was works in specific ways from how i understand it that wolf can make anything it's prey and it does that with time, considering it as it's prey it amplified it's speed to that extent and sunny as a hunter fight back with his own will.
You're probably right.
 
It doesn't matter how it was done and what else could help Sunny bypass it, we know that it shouldn't affect him due to his sheer speed and that's enough.
It matters tbh if it's by cm then that moth is not just manipulating local time but the concept of it so for that he would need resistance to it. And also sunny was still able to talk to it and precieve it. Ig it can be considered a perception speed feat although we don't have any idea about how much did that moth slowed down the time.
 
It matters tbh if it's by cm then that moth is not just manipulating local time but the concept of it so for that he would need resistance to it.
The fact that resistance would make it doesn't change the fact that only sheer speed is enough.
 
The fact that resistance would make it doesn't change the fact that only sheer speed is enough.
Eh idt only sheer speed is enough. It is like a character uses nuclear explosion to destroy a city and another uses the concept of fire(type 2) to destroy that city so it would be difficult to resist the latter with just sheer durability. But the first can be resisted with just durability and some resistance to radiation
 
With CM or not, Moth makes time flow finitely slower than before. I don't say that it literally won't affect Sunny, but that this effect wouldn't be able to slow him down.

So without resistance, it will affect him but won't be enough to stop/slow down(if he had inf speed).

But I agree with your previous post about how they achieved that speed via CM. So that'd probably not be an anti feat.
 
probably makes it invalid imo. just a speed amp via time manip

What's the point in slowing down time if you could just do something better and see and do stuff in no time at all.
This is the most likely interpretation. Though, like you mentioned before, beings like the gods / other void beings, likely get infinite speed due to their size.
 
With CM or not, Moth makes time flow finitely slower than before. I don't say that it literally won't affect Sunny, but that this effect wouldn't be able to slow him down.

So without resistance, it will affect him but won't be enough to stop/slow down(if he had inf speed).

But I agree with your previous post about how they achieved that speed via CM. So that'd probably not be an anti feat.
Yeah, for this there's a inverse logic that's moth's will is stronger because of its rank and sunny was not able to resist it with his own will. Although that's seems weird to me ngl
 
Haven't read the series yet but saw this video were the author had outlined some speed levels in a qna which seem to conflict with the current feats for scaling.

The qna was on his discord I went to have a look but the server rewuires a phone verification which I did not do.

 
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