Sesshomaru vs Sosuke Aizen

[PrettyFearMachine]

I'm making this because Ryuko vs Sesshomaru's gone into the abyss...

-Base Aizen and Post-Bakusaiga Sesshomaru are used.

-Speed is equalized.

-Starting range is 30 meters.

-K.O. via SBA.





Sesshomaru - 0

Aize - 0

Inconclusive - 7

 

[RavenSupreme]

Difficult. Sesshoumaru has likely way superior firepower, as he can spam borderline High-7A attacks with a pretty significant range with Bakusaiga (several hundred meters AOE). Which would end Aizen when they hit since they inverse cancelled a low-godly regenerators physical host from regenerating.

On the other hand, Sesshoumaru distinguishes fact and fiction (to see through Illusions for example) via scent to a high degree. From what i recall Aizens hypnosis targets this sense doesnt it? My memory is blurry whether or not Sesshoumaru has seen through hypnosis and Illusions via other means - need to check that again.

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Sesshoumarus physical durability also does not live up to his firepower, meaning if he truly gets caught in hypnosis and Aizens gets a shot in Sesshoumaru would not be able to tank it.

He would however be able to endure it, given that Tensaiga automatically teleports him away when he gets hit with a potential lethal blast - and builds a barrier when hit with an overwhelmingly physical strike.

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I vote inconclusive, as i can see them both downing each other easily.

I may change my vote if I can confirm that Sesshoumaru has feats of resisting Illusions/Hypnosis via other means than his scent.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Le bump

 

[Onracol]

Kyoka Suigetsu is only escapable if Sesshomaru touches the blade of Aizen's Zanpakto. I don't recall Sesshomaru having resistance to any form of illusions let alone break them with his 5 senses being manipulated.

I'll add onto RavenSupreme's argument and give my vote to Azen via Kyoka Suigetsu. Hado 90 is pretty solid to get a finishing move off.

Its been a while since I've seen Inuyasha, so if he has shown resistance to his 5 senses being manipulated, then ill take the argument from there.

For now, vote for Aizen.

 

[RavenSupreme]

what range does aizens illusion work tho? sesshoumaru IC spams his ranged attack. from what i recall aizens illusions begin to be activated whenever someone goes into close combat, isnt that right?

 

[Onracol]

Aizen illusions activate upon Aizen activating his Kyoka Suigetsu and the person witnesses that release. Since it's in character, Aizen will take his sword out and release his shikai. Since they are in combat, Sesshomaru will witness it release. It doesn't have a range. Once you see it, Aizen can manipulate your 5 senses at will whenever. We saw that with the Vizords since they saw his release 100 years ago once and yet Aizen casually manipulated their senses.

 

[RavenSupreme]

do you mean drawing the sword is the release or is the release something he does after drawing his sword?

sesshoumaru has feats of seeing through illusions - via his scent. whether or not he has others, i dont know, as i said, and would have to double check.

that being said how was his illusion bypassed in-verse. wasnt it via pain, after aizen hit em? either way, its a dangerous ability

but nothing i would say is "lol suigetsu gg" worth. its an addition, not a deciding factor in my eyes

 

[Onracol]

Unsheathing the sword and releasing it are different, but since this is in character, Aizen does it simultaneously, so Hitting Sesshomaru with it is no problem and it'll happen really early in the fight. His scent is one of the senses and is controlled by Kyoka suigetsu, so it will be manipulated to the point of confusion. His enhanced scent might even be more harmful because he will start relying on it which is bad since its being manipulated. The illusions can be only seen through only if someone touches Aizen's blade which he can't hide since this is base form Aizen (EOS Aizen is fused with KS, so he gets rid of that weakness). Sesshomaru has to somehow touch Aizen's blade and hold on to it.

 

[RavenSupreme]

what is base form aizens stats? assuming he would blast an hadou? sesshoumaru, when he gets pressured too much has on panel feats of rushing his opponent. not his prefered style but surely nothing out of the ordinary for him

 

[Onracol]

At least mountain level+ attack potency and mountain level+ durability. Massively hypersonic+. He blitzed Ichigo casually who was at Lightning soeed in his bankai. His hadou 90 without incantation took out a captain class opponent casually. That captain (komamura) had mountain level+ durability like Sesshomaru, so it isn't far fetched to say Aizen's unincantated hadou 90 will deal a significant amount of damage that will almost put Sesshomaru out of the fight.Aizen is very strategic, so if Sesshunatu rushes Aizen, then he's less likely to come out unscathed tbh. Aizen has shown this vs Toshiro twice.

 

[RavenSupreme]

has aizen performed the immediate suigetsu + hadou combo IC before? from what i remember he likes to play and fool around with his opponent. which can proof to be his downfall, as he can not hide his blade.

sesshoumaru does not play around. he goes immediately for the kill. which would be IC a blast to the face.

if we were to assume that that blast would somehow get interrupted via illusion shenanigans - sesshoumaru would close any distance between him and aizen, who holds the blade from what i assume, and go for close combat.

and since the suigetsu is not an illusion which needs resistance on the mental/spiritual plane but only requires action on the physical level (touching the blade) it is likely sesshoumaru will break through it.

and sesshoumaru would only need a tiny little scratch. the starting distance is some meters from what i got. sesshoumaru would just need to swing his sword once - his AOE his significant enough to hit aizen even assuming he were put under the illusion.

 

[Onracol]

Ill respond when I wake up tomorrow haha. I gotta get some sleep for now!

 

[RavenSupreme]

Have a good sleep buddy

 

[Dat_Dot]

Hmm, an interesting match.

Well for a start. This is not the first time people rushing at Aizen only to be tricked by Kyoka Suigetsu.

And Aizen, even in his base form is able to spam Hadou #90 and one shot a captain level shinigami (And that's when he's not yet fused with Hogyoku).

He become too arrogant only when he fused with hogyoku, when he's at chyrsalis form and beyond. In base form he willing to use Kyouka Suigetsu to trick his enemy and oneshot them immediately as the scan above show us that he quickly dispatch two captain level and not playing with them too much.

Note that Aizen can affect beings who has enhanced senses and extrasensory perception. Beings with higher than average levels of reiryoku possess the ability to sense other spiritual beings without relying on their five basic senses. So breaking out Kyouka Suigetsu is not an easy task.

And the weakness of Kyouka Suigetsu is to touch the blade before the Kyouka Suigetsu active as explained by Gi.

 

[RavenSupreme]

It doesn't matter if seashoumaru would be under the effect of suigetsu tho

He has enough AP to one shot - simply via bakusaigas lethal cellular decomposition

He merely has to launch a 360 degree AOE blast with him in the epicenter and Aizen would be caught in it

That's something many illusions which do not target the mind specifically have no answer against. Sesshoumaru is not limited in his actions by suigetsu. Only in his perception

That being said due to that fact I change my vote to sesshoumaru. Since it is an effective way of targeting and defeating aizen even assuming he IS affected by suigetsu

 

[Dat_Dot]

So Sesshomaru will just do a 360 AOE blasts right off the bat? Is he has any reason to do it? He won't know if he's under KS tho. Aizen can still use Shunpo or fly away from it for the worse case of scenario.

Even if it's only perception it's still useful to fool him into fighting an illusion of him. So he'll fighting an empty space (Aizen can even fool Yhwach by thinking he fight with three persons while in reality he just fights Aizen before Ichigo arrives), during the fight with the captains he even make them think they fight the real Aizen while in reality they attacked someone else.

So how does Sesshomaru has answer for KS exactly? KS can alter his scent with KS since it can manipulate five senses. He won't even know if he under illusion.

As the scan above, Aizen can put Hitsugaya under KS fast enough before he can lunged at him.

 

[Schnee_One]

Question

Doesn't Aizen's sword get instantly atomized the legit moment he blocks an attack?

 

[Dat_Dot]

So, every Sesshomaru's attacks can atomize?

Tell me how it works.

 

[Schnee_One]

His blade touches something

It atomizes is on a cellular level

 

[RavenSupreme]

USually he goes for a straight forward blast generated to wherever his opponent is located. However he has IC feats of immediately going for a 360 blast, instantly killing 1000+ demons around him

Assuming that he would not , upon realizing his blasts don't hit, he will not go for an AIE blast is illogical in my eyes.

Sesshoumaru can not atomize. He only can cellular disintegrate organic matter.

But whether or not his senses are twisted - launching the blast would still be possible regardless. And aizen likely has no means of defending against it in my eyes

 

[Dat_Dot]

Now that's interesting.

That remind me of Gin's bankai.

Hmmm

 

[Dat_Dot]

But whether or not his senses are twisted - launching the blast would still be possible regardless. And aizen likely has no means of defending against it in my eyes

Well Sesshomaru still has no answer for KS too tbf. By making him thinks he fight someone else while Aizen is far away is still possible or by faking his own death like he did to the captains multiple times and then give him a surprised attack. Not to mention variety of Aizen's kidos.

I can see an Inconclusive here tbh.

 

[Schnee_One]

Inconclusive

For reasons above

 

[RavenSupreme]

Well Sesshomaru still has no answer for KS too tbf. By making him thinks he fight someone else while Aizen is far away is still possible or by faking his own death like he did to the captains multiple times and then give him a surprised attack. Not to mention variety of Aizen's kidos.

I can see an Inconclusive here tbh.

Fair point. I agree on inconclusive then like I did initially as well

 

[Onracol]

Sorry, I'm late! I just read through these comments. Just my vote to inconclusive. I haven't brushed up on my Inuyasha knowledge in a while haha

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

bump

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Bump

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Incon FRA

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Inconclusive FRA

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

incon FRA

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

"We're done here!"

 

[Demnok]

Aizen. Sesshomaru has no defense or counter to KS, which affects all 5 senses. Throwing energy blasts wound be meaningless if he can't target accurately. Besides, aizen knows many kido techniques, including hado 90 which bends space and time, and was also able to nullify a two-shot technique (soi fong's suzumebachi).

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

The thread has been done for almost two weeks, my dude

 

[Dr.Fix]

Aizen for reasons already said. Also Sesshomaru's stats seem not to be based on anything.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

cough Necro'ing a week old thread cough

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Aizen for reasons already said. Also Sesshomaru's stats seem not to be based on anything.

What? There's a Low 7-B feat from Inuyasha which scales to Sesshomaru (before Bakusaiga) and a 7-A feat of his own. There's also a Supersonic+ to Hypersonic+ feat.

 

[Dr.Fix]

Then why aren't said feats in his profile? Right now it just says He's moutain level for being stronger than Inuyasha and Inuyasha is mountain level for being equal to Sesshomaru. Their profiles are messed up which is what I meant by his stats not being based on anything.

 

[RavenSupreme]

If you click on "Mountain Level" you get redirected to the calculations.

 

[Dr.Fix]

^thanks for the help. It could go either way now. :S

 

[ZackMoon1234]

The thread's already been concluded though...