Servant speed upgrade

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Here are some feats that put them above MHS:

Arthur Pendragon can strike faster than the speed of lightning in Fate/Prototype: Fragments of Sky Silver Drama CD:

Immediately after that, the curved great monster appeared before his eyes. Right in front of him. Slashing it up even faster than lightning, the King of Knights controlled the flash with his wind blade, but the giant beast’s moves were even faster.

Diarmuid Ua Duibhne goes near lightspeed when fighting with Artoria Pendragon in Fate/Zero: Act 11, Part 3

The holy sword intertwined with the demonic lance, in direct opposition; the sparks flying were simply dazzling. The clash between the precious artifacts of legend, driven by strength and speed far beyond that of a human, passed the speed of sound, nearing the speed of light. Observation had long since lost meaning in this momentous battle. Those divine skills, pushed to the limits at the point of this fierce battle, were having a supreme contest between the two. An unknown number of rounds had been fought; perhaps tens of rounds, perhaps hundreds of rounds. It was simply impossible to determine with a mortal eye. After the lance and sword of the two clashed, they finally separated, and moved away from each other.

Cu Chulainn is stated to be able to throw Gae Bolg faster than light in Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star
In Carnival Phantasm, he reacts to cloud to ground lightning here.
In Fate SN, he struck "lightning-fast", which might sound hyperbole, but he has a feat to back it up so I think its fine

Sherlock Holmes outran Tesla's radio waves in FGO.

Achilles with his Troias Tragoidia, Tempestuous Immortal Chariot flew at light speed in Fate Apocrypha Volume 4 Chapter 4. He can react to himself while riding this chariot.

If you disagree with relativistic and higher, I suggest MHS+ at the very least due to lightning timing

 

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Who scales to this speed upgrade?

 

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Guess this can be the thread to post the others light speed and above things.

 

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List them, and include stuff higher than MHS, like lightning timing

 

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There are a few more feats:

The movement of Excalibur's beams was compared to a laser beam:

Excalibur converts the mana of the wielder into light, and as the sword is swung, the light is released from the tip of the blade like a laser beam and destroys everything in its path. Of course, the mana consumption is extreme, thus it cannot be fired consecutively. In the Fourth Holy Grail War, the beastly giant sea monster summoned by Caster was completely incinerated by this Noble Phantasm. Excalibur is classified as an ‘Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasm” due to its magnitude and destructive power.

Mash dodged mechanical laser beams from close range:


Katsushika Hokusai managed to clash with Okita J Sōji while she was using her sublight acceleration jetpack at full power:

The miraculous single hit emitted by over-boosting the super MAKOTO DRIVE engine installed in the jetpack. Extreme jet acceleration beyond the physical limitations of any person causes the three-stage thrust to execute at sublight speed, which results in its velocity consuming the surrounding air and induces an outrageous power output that swallows up and annihilates the target's surroundings, despite it being a single target attack.

Yan Qing moves so fast while using his Noble Phantasm that there is not enough time for his shadow to be cast on the ground:

A shadow cloning strike that makes use of Yan Qing's unique footwork. While it may not quite reach the level of magic, this high-speed footwork is still fast enough to be imperceptible to a third party's senses, and Yan Qing makes full use of it to deliver a series of blows. It is said that he moves so swiftly that his shadow doesn't even have time to reach the ground.

Sherlock uses his lenses to fire beams of light at his opponent:

Hand-to-hand combat attacks by means of baritsu. Also, Holmes can produce beams of light with objects and the like that are remodelled into… his personal accessories, which are like special Magecraft Mystic Codes. Holmes declares that these are “a large number of Mystic Codes that were discovered in the Back Regions of Tibet during the Great Hiatus”, but the veracity of this statement is ambiguous.

Which Sigurd managed to dodge with ease while fighting Mash:

Holmes Yes, I see. Now that I've seen your strength up close, some things have become abundantly clear. Your swordsmanship is exquisite⸻surely the finest in the Norse lands. You are also immensely strong, and have both the knowledge and reflexes to dodge my magical energy beam with ease.

Archimedes and Ozymandias also have light-based attacks that can fit the criteria, though I am not aware of them being dodged within the narrative.

Lord El-Melloi Case Files has Gray reacting to cloud-to-ground lightning, Svin blocking an electricity attack stated to have comparable speed to lightning, Svin disappearing through speed just when a many times stronger version of the lightning attack was going to hit him, and Touko tagging Svin while he is rushing forward:

Spoiler: Lord El-Melloi Case Files, Volume 3

Suddenly, the sun darkened.
Clouds. Dark storm clouds were racing across the sky from the east, throwing a shadow over the entire Iselma estate. As we watched uneasily, the clouds spread above us with a clearly unnatural speed.
The low rumble of thunder reached us.
“-Master!”
Instinctively, I leapt towards my master and grabbed him tight.
At the same time, a powerful impact struck my whole body from behind.
It felt like a bomb. I could only wonder at how much magical energy had to be invested in that attack, for it to shake the ground under us to such a degree. While the lightning itself had flowed mostly into the ground, the aftermath was enough to throw everyone around it into shock.

[...]

He jumped.
Even so, the attackers responded as appropriate.
At once, they released the magecraft they had been holding back. Though the lightning they released was no more than a One Count spell, thanks to the enhancing effects of the Weather Manipulation, it should have had no issue tearing apart their unlucky opponent.
But instead, the hand one of them had extended forward vanished.
In the same way as his teeth had become fangs, Svin’s fingernails had likewise become razorlike claws. Perhaps even unaware of that change, the magus was relieved of his hand, and collapsed to the ground unconscious due to the sudden mass blood loss.

[...]

Having already been involved in Mineral and Compensation-type magecraft, these Primeval Batteries were a
perfect fit. In the end, they were able to lace the electricity they held with their own magical energy.
And so they gained control of a power considered to be entirely within the realms of the gods in any number of ancient lands. Utilizing that power, they accrued tremendous prosperity. And of course, in having access to that power, spells that manipulated the weather came only a few steps later.
“Rage (Gush Out).”
With those words, the electricity became an enormous hand.
The speed with which it attacked was on par with that of lightning. Powering through the resistance in the air as if it was nothing, in the blink of an eye it struck out at the boy.
In answer, the phantasmal wolf roared.
Both were techniques overflowing with magical energy. Lightning and Sound - though the medium was different, the motive force behind both Mysteries remained unchanged. In short, the greater Mystery would no doubt overwhelm it’s opponent.
As the lightning and the howl made contact, they threw off invisible sparks that deflected the rain around them, whirling together into a mess of magical energy that rapidly broke down.
It appeared to be a tie.
Though in terms of power Atram’s lightning was certainly the stronger of the two, once the rain and wind washed awaythe ensuing cloud of dust, the phantasmal wolf Svin had become still stood defiant.

[...]

“You understand that yourself, don’t you? My professor could see through a technique like that in a flash. Your magecraft is definitely polished. As a tool used to hurt people, for use in combat, it’s more than perfect. But that’s not what magecraft is for.” Svin snorted. “Rather than a magus, you’re more like a Spellcaster.”
How deeply must those words have struck home? Atram’s eyes were wide, boiling over with rage. Drawing forth many times the amount of magical energy he had used earlier through his Magic Circuits, he activated his Crest while pouring it into the Battery. The spell bought by the Galiastafamily converted that magical energy into lightning with the utmost efficiency.
It was like a dragon.
Anyone looking at that scene would surely be able to envision the jaws of that terrible creature opening wide before him.
Brooking no attempts at flight, the lightning-born dragon soared forward to swallow Svin - who disappeared a moment before contact.
With a speed no human’s eyes could follow, Svin leapt away.
Scattering branches and trunks like pinball, the gathered magi cried out in surprise as Svin fell like a shooting star, claws aiming straight for Atram’s head.

[...]

Having avoided the electric net Atram had put in place for him, he cycled his magical energy around to prepare to tear him apart. Even if he was going to use a thin layer of electricity to defend himself, all he had to do was tear through it. And so he had swung down with all his might.
But at that moment, a powerful impact hit him from the side, blowing him away entirely. Wrenching himself free of his illusionary body, Svin had just barely managed to land upright.
It wasn’t something Atram had done. The proof of that was that the electric net was torn apart yet again, prompting a shocked reaction from the dark skinned man himself.
(…what was that?!)
Though obscured by the rain and darkness, from the middle of the forest emerged a bright scarlet.
As that lone figure approached, everything went immediately quiet.
“…hey now,” the figure spoke. “Aren’t you guys going a bit overboard with the magecraft here?” As if that was some trouble for her, the woman smiled.

Musashi and Billy the Kidd claim that they are faster than lightning:

Musashi Sorry. Old habits and all that. Besides, a quick-draw battle between a gunslinger and a swordsman? How could I NOT want to see which of us would win? Granted, I've already won a number of quick-draw battles with other gunslingers, but Billy the Kid's GOT to be on a whole other level. Musashi Is it true you can fire off three rounds between a man's eyes before he's even had time to blink? You ARE supposed to be faster than lightning, right? Billy 'Course I am. Plenty of folks've come to see if those rumors were true, and they've gotten more'n two or three rounds between the eyes for their trouble! Billy This ain't really the place, though. Too closed in. You're plannin' to deflect anythin' I fire and rush me for the kill, ain'tcha? Probably cap the whole thing off by sayin' somethin' 'bout how you was only lookin' to see who's faster, then just mosey along. Musashi Ahaha, saw right through me, huh? Guess you and I are BOTH outlaws through and through!

One of the best evidences for relativistic would be on the FGO Olympus chapter, which should get its NA release later this month. But basically Musashi managed to parry and explicit light speed attack from Castor with difficulty (but done competently enough Musashi bluffed she did it casually). Later on, Castor resorts to moving FTL which damages his Saint Graph:

Spoiler: Fan translations until official NA release

castor: "a human mixed with a god is still a human, pollux. indistinct from the likes of that loser, caenis."
pollux: "brother ..."
mashu: "the twin gods, the dioscuroi. we previously encountered them in atlantis! they're divine spirit servants!"
castor: "hm? you look upon me, point at me, and call my name. human -- i haven't permitted such a thing"

castor attacks mashu, but musashi blocks

musashi: "was this disrespectful of me, perhaps? though, for a great and powerful kami-sama, your blade was far too light. whether it be in speed or purpose, it wasn't of any weight at all -- to the point that somebody like me could block it as easily as if you were wielding a feather"
musashi (in thought): "what the hell was that weight and speed!? if it isn't light itself, that sort of speed isn't possible, no!?"
"or perhaps, was it truly light itself? that sort of attack would be beyond the means of even a sword-saint!"
"it was only on account of holmes-san's predictions that i was able to intercept it!"
"if not for that, mashu might've been beheaded just now!"

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Dioscuroi: Castor
Unforgivable.

Mashu
!

Musashi
Oo-toh!

Gudako
1: Mashu!
2: Musashi-chan! ←

Musashi
It's fine, it's fine ~☆
Rather than that, please take care of Mashu, 'kay?

Dioscuroi: Castor
You ———

Musashi
Was I disrespectful, perhaps?
Though, [I do say], the blade [brandished] by this mighty Kami-sama is far too light.
Whether in purpose or speed, it was too light; too light —
so alike to a feather that even somebody of my level could block it!
(As if! But I could only so flippantly retort!)
(What's with that weight; that speed!?
Isn't it the case that on account of not being light, that isn't possible!?)
(Or perhaps, it truly was light?
Not even a Sword-Saint could put forth such a blow!)
(Moreover, Holmes-san — that was indeed discernment quite becoming [of him].
It was per [his] assorted predictions that I was able to muster a means of defense!)
(If not for that ...
it's definitely the case that Mashu's head would by now be ...)

[...]

castor wields a shield, and pollux wields a blade
but, mashu now bears an imitation of the Aigis of Athena
and Caenis bears the trident of poseidon

-> musashi (thoughts): "the strongest shield and the strongest spear! if these be brought to bear -- they should simultaneously be brought to fall; the god of light, dioscuroi -- and its two heads!"

-> the dioscuroi, however, turn their gaze to guda
castor takes guda hostage
however, just as the dioscuroi are praising one another for turning the tables
pollux notices that castor is bleeding from the mouth

pollux: "it can't be! superluminal movement by the use of our authority!?"
"we're gods in truth no longer -- fallen to the standing of divine spirits! use of our authority in full invites the destruction of our spiritual core!"

the dioscuroi continue to hold guda hostage -- but something changes

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Dioscuroi: Castor
But if aim be taken ...
There subsequent, there shan't be any match to my luminal speed ... certainly.

Dioscuroi: Pollux
Brother, from the corner of your mouth, blood is ———
It can't be!
Superluminous movement by the use of Authority!?
We are already not as Gods (神, kami) in truth, but fallen to the standing of Divine Spirits (神霊, shinrei)!
Genuine (本格, honkaku) use of Authority invites the complete destruction of the Spiritual Core!

 

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There was another servant speed upgrade CRT, now I am confused

 

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