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Semi Mini Demon Slayer CRT Part 6 (Demon Durability Edition)

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Shinobu should get Class K lifting strength via Death Amp due to pushing Douma and pinning him down

Obanai should be Class K with Demon Slayer Mark due to using gripping strength to turn his sword red. This is something most of the hashiras cant do with their Class K lifting strength. His base would be Class 25 via 10x slayer mark downscale

Post Yoriichi Type Zero Tanjiro should get Limited Perception Amplification, Information Analysis, Enhanced Sight
Tanjiro when he was trying to hunt down Hantengu unlocked a limited version of the transparent world. However, this version doesn’t give him any sort of speed boost and he can’t use it on command. Tanjiro in the Infinity Fortress also compared his complete version of the transparent world to the half baked version from against Hantengu

Weakened Poisoned Douma should be Town level/Upper 6 level for being weakened to the point 2 Upper 6 level characters such as Inosuke and Kanao can decapitate him. Kanao also commented how Douma got vastly weaker but was surprised he still had that much strength left.

Post Hashira Training Inosuke and Kanao should get Master swordsman and Instinctive Reactions for reaching the skill of a Hashira and therefore being comparable to them.
Douma also stated that Kanao is more skilled than Shinobu. Zenitsu's profile currently also has the same abilities for the same reason

Post Rehab Zenitsu should get Psuedo flight for flying across the Red Light District for several minutes

Akaza should get energy manipulation and duplication for creating several red energy clones that are all contributing to his Blue silver chaotic after glow (Infinity Fortress Movie 1 Addition)


Sabito gets Incorporeality and Immortality type 7 for being you know, a ghost

Nezuko should get Small town durability, higher with neck in the SSV Arc for taking Karaku's wind and was comparable to Tanjiro

Daki should get Small town durability, higher with neck for surviving numerous kicks from Nezuko and blocked Zenitsu's slash.

Swamp Demon should get small building level durability, higher with neck for withstanding multiple attacks from Nezuko

Hantengu/Zohakuten should get small town durability for withstanding a kick from Nezuko

Muzan's bonewhip tentacles should scale to the durability of his neck because none of the hashiras can destroy it except for Gyomei.

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All Upper Moon Demon's and Muzan's durability (excluding neck since its far higher) should scale to Daki's durability due to not even being the proper Upper Moon 6

FINAL PROPOSAL
All demons durability should be
"Varies, At Most (Whatever their AP is or highest durability feat), likely higher (Demons durability fluctuates depending on what body parts they choose to enhance over the other but their entire body should be more durable or relative to their own Blood Demon Art's output if they're not enhancing anything)"

Agree: @KnyRaizn @Anonymous_Learner @OiEuSouDuvi, @Machmatej & @AyOgUyS (except for Energy and Instinctive Reactions) @NikHelton @Epyriel (Neutral on Akaza clones) @Catbowtie (Disagrees with Energy) @MyriadOfHeartsSpiritualFlowerGarden @DragonZeroNova, @Kavopaco (Agrees with Godernet)

@Godernet & @DarkDragonMedeus & @Imaginym (Neutral on IR Kanao and Inosuke. Leaning towards blood clones. Selective invisibility and intangibility for Sabito. Agrees with everything else)

Disagree:
 
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Robo432343 said:
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what do you mean Nezuko can take the lightning she's literally unconscious
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Whoops. Listed the entirely wrong demon and blood demon art. It was Karaku's blood demon art not sekido's lightning

Her durability is currently

Unknown. Small Town level, with her neck (More durable than before)

Shes not splattered and blown into a pile of blood. She showed comparable damage to Tanjiro who is small town level in durability
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Akaza should get energy manipulation and duplication for creating several red energy clones that are all contributing to his Blue silver chaotic after glow (Infinity Fortress Movie 1 Addition)
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Are you sure it is not the same as Tanjiro "creating water" or Zenitsu "creating lightning/electricity" with their breathing techniques for stylistic effect? It looks to me like the real Akaza is the only one actually producing all the omnidirectional shockwaves by spinning and throwing punches.
 
Kin201 said:
Are you sure it is not the same as Tanjiro "creating water" or Zenitsu "creating lightning/electricity" with their breathing techniques for stylistic effect? It looks to me like the real Akaza is the only one actually producing all the omnidirectional shockwaves by spinning and throwing punches.
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Tbf slayers like Tanjiro and Zenitsu all use breathing styles with fake effects while Akaza uses a blood demon art which are all real. There was also a shockwave coming from the clone here.

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CastoriceTheFifth said:
Tbf slayers like Tanjiro and Zenitsu all use breathing styles with fake effects while Akaza uses a blood demon art which are all real. There was also a shockwave coming from the clone here.
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Well, Akaza's BDA is different from most others since it never involves anything overly supernatural in the manga, just shockwaves and similar effects. But fine, I guess. The anime does seem to expand on that.

Edit: Nevermind. Compass Needle is quite supernatural since it lets him sense fighting spirit and basically gives him a form of "Ultra Instinct".
 
Damage3245 said:
As far as the feat in that video goes, it doesn't look like Douma is pushing back against her in that clip. Launching him upwards would only require her to overcome his weight, not his own Lifting Strength.
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Do you have thoughts on the rest of the crt by any chance
 
Honestly, I think demons can actively control and focus their durability, but that's something. I agree.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
The demons durability has to be the funniest shit in the series
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I mean, there are several cases like Rui cutting his head with wires he himself declared were weaker than his body. Muzan, who was regularly cut by Zenitsu and Inosuke in the 2nd Drug, barely got cut in the chest by Zenitsu at full power. Or onis like Daki and Akaza ripping off his arms with force.

Even though it is not explicit, it is consistent.
 
OiEuSouDuvi said:
I mean, there are several cases like Rui cutting his head with wires he himself declared were weaker than his body. Muzan, who was regularly cut by Zenitsu and Inosuke in the 2nd Drug, barely got cut in the chest by Zenitsu at full power. Or onis like Daki and Akaza ripping off his arms with force.

Even though it is not explicit, it is consistent.
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That wasn’t the statement. Rui’s blood demon art strings were more durable than the spider father demon. Tanjiro and Inosuke couldn’t cut his arm and Inosuke needed both swords to pull it off.

Daki’s durability scaling to Nezuko’s AP due to withstanding that immaculate whooping and blocking Zenitsu’s sixfold alongside upscaling all the actual upper moons and muzan sounds about right. All the demons getting slashed were either fighting someone with a sword and comparable AP or slashed by someone way stronger than Daki’s durability
 
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shouldn't we scale Akaza's durability to Giyu's AP considering he not only blocked his sword attacks with his fist and received little to no damage and he wasn't be repeatedly cut in half like butter.

that alongside the uppermoons i guess.

idk i do support selective durability for the demons but it's not as extreme as what the wiki is proposing, the fights don't particularly demonstrate a difference that extreme, and it might just be slashing attacks considering tanjiro's punches and kicks don't exactly tear trough akaza's face and body.
 
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Nvm I stand corrected. He does say this. Does scaling all Lower Moon 1-2 Demons durability to Rui's AP sound good? (which is like building level)

MyriadOfHeartsSpiritualFlowerGarden said:
shouldn't we scale Akaza's durability to Giyu's AP considering he not only blocked his sword attacks with his fist and received little to no damage and he wasn't be repeatedly cut in half like butter.
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You mean like the constant flux + drop ripple thrust combo?

 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
You mean like the constant flux + drop ripple thrust combo?
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one look at that and it should be obvious to anyone Giyu isn't capable ot just cutting trough him like cutting trough styrophome due to an AP durability differential bordering what, 5 orders of magnitudes of a difference?

you can even see the sparks flying off every time the sword clashes with his flesh, the durability section on this site is just weird, like sure demon durability is inconsistent but the "city block level" rating here doesn't do their durability justice in the slightest...

It should be
inconsistent at least city block level
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or smth like that
 
MyriadOfHeartsSpiritualFlowerGarden said:
one look at that and it should be obvious to anyone Giyu isn't capable ot just cutting trough him like cutting trough styrophome due to an AP durability differential bordering what, 5 orders of magnitudes of a difference?


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you can even see the sparks flying off every time the sword clashes with his flesh, the durability section on this site is just weird, like sure demon durability is inconsistent but the "city block level" rating here doesn't do their durability justice in the slightest...

It should be


or smth like that
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Akaza has to be the most weirdest case. He gets sliced like butter by Rengoku who is NOWHERE near Akaza's level and gets sliced like butter by Base Giyu. The moment Giyu becomes marked, Akaza is suddenly capable of withstanding a STRONGER Giyu's slashes and blocking them.

You suggesting them selectively choosing what part of their body they want as durable makes sense since its always the neck that is the most durable and 100% consistent.
 
Yeah thinking about it more makes sense. Its ALWAYS their neck that is nigh impossible to decapitate. Their necks are always STRONGER than their own Blood Demon Art and AP and can tank slashes by characters comparable to them in AP. It does make sense if they selectively choose to sacrifice their entire body's durability in order to enhance their neck's durability astronomically above their own AP since thats the only part of the demon's body that cannot regenerate at all and just kills them.
 
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CastoriceTheFifth said:
The moment Giyu becomes marked, Akaza is suddenly capable of withstanding a STRONGER Giyu's slashes and blocking them.
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It's Akaza showing skill in parrying and deflecting sword strikes. If he just stood still and let Giyu hit him, all his limbs would be cut off.


Marked Giyu never landed a full, clean swing on his neck right? For all we know, he could have cut off Akaza's head with a solid hit like Tanjiro if he managed to land it.
 
Kin201 said:
It's Akaza showing skill in parrying and deflecting sword strikes
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Your skill doesn't matter when what you're blocking exceeds what you can take by 100 thousand times.

The sparks flying off is indication enough of friction between the blade and akaza's flesh and that can only happen with materials of similar durability.

You can even see Giyu's sword stuck in his arm unable to fully cut it off at 0:50


The fact that he literally blocked his strikes and took the sharp edge of the blade head on with his fist non whitstanding.


Kin201 said:
If he just stood still and let Giyu hit him, all his limbs would be cut off.
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That's just slashing attacks and breathing amps at work, just because I can slice off your arm with one clean strike doesn't make you as weak as Styrofoam


Kin201 said:
Marked Giyu never landed a full, clean swing on his neck right? For all we know, he could have cut off Akaza's head with a solid hit like Tanjiro if he managed to land it.
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In the absence of contradictory evidence the default assumption is consistency with the established rules.

Demon necks are consistently more durable than their body and there is no reason for anyone else to believe akaza is an exception to the rule.
 
Kin201 said:
It's Akaza showing skill in parrying and deflecting sword strikes. If he just stood still and let Giyu hit him, all his limbs would be cut off.
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He did like 2 normal blocks. The second image was him withstanding the final rotation of constant flux and blocking it for like 10 seconds.

Kin201 said:
Marked Giyu never landed a full, clean swing on his neck right? For all we know, he could have cut off Akaza's head with a solid hit like Tanjiro if he managed to land it.
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If this counts
 
The fight just has a lot of inconsistencies then, which is pretty common when characters with high regeneration are involved. His arm was cut off by base Giyu pretty easily. In the manga, both his arms were cut off, mind you, unless Akaza somehow became more durable later.

Also, I never said his neck is not more durable than the rest of his body. I think that is pretty obvious.
 
Kin201 said:
The fight just has a lot of inconsistencies then, which is pretty common when characters with high regeneration are involved. His arm was cut off by base Giyu pretty easily. In the manga, both his arms were cut off, mind you, unless Akaza somehow became more durable later.
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Hence why selective durability.

He just reinforces his body depending on what he wants or needs, which is consistent with muzan not focusing on Durability at all and going on full on regeneration since he has no weakness to decapitation unlike the other demons.


And he does objectively become more durable later, the showings indicate that much.
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
That wasn’t the statement. Rui’s blood demon art strings were more durable than the spider father demon. Tanjiro and Inosuke couldn’t cut his arm and Inosuke needed both swords to pull it off.

Daki’s durability scaling to Nezuko’s AP due to withstanding that immaculate whooping and blocking Zenitsu’s sixfold alongside upscaling all the actual upper moons and muzan sounds about right. All the demons getting slashed were either fighting someone with a sword and comparable AP or slashed by someone way stronger than Daki’s durability
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What I meant is that oni durability is consistently shown to increase or decrease as they please, or even lack a focus. And that they possibly control their durability, which would explain things like Obanai easily slicing Muzan's neck. Muzan would have much more advantage in letting attacks bypass his instant regen. It also explains a 4th Drug Muzan being more difficult for Zenitsu to cut, while no such difficulty was shown against the 2nd Drug.
 
MyriadOfHeartsSpiritualFlowerGarden said:
Hence why selective durability.

He just reinforces his body depending on what he wants or needs, which is consistent with muzan not focusing on Durability at all and going on full on regeneration since he has no weakness to decapitation unlike the other demons.


And he does objectively become more durable later, the showings indicate that much.
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Exactly!!
 
OiEuSouDuvi said:
What I meant is that oni durability is consistently shown to increase or decrease as they please, or even lack a focus. And that they possibly control their durability, which would explain things like Obanai easily slicing Muzan's neck. Muzan would have much more advantage in letting attacks bypass his instant regen. It also explains a 4th Drug Muzan being more difficult for Zenitsu to cut, while no such difficulty was shown against the 2nd Drug.
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Yeah Muzan is the ONLY one with an inconsistent neck durability

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It took 2 MARKED Hashiras at extreme difficulty to decapitate Kokushibo's neck

Yet a BASE OBANAI can decapitate Muzan's head
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So yeah it genuinely looks like they selective choose which part of their body is durable.
 
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