Self-Reference Engine Tier 0 Downgrade (Nemo Edition)

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Should be really simplistic. Based solely on what the profile suggests, Nemo Ex Machina no longer qualifies for Tier 0 and thusly should be downgraded to High 1-A+for encompassing all possible character strings, and each of those character strings represent the possibilities that Nemo embodies..

 

[Voidnether]

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Look in any other situation the encompassing all possible character strings and such would indubitably keep it as the top dog, but because of Tier 0's strict requirements it just doesn't work out sadly.

 

[Voidnether]

Look in any other situation the encompassing all possible character strings and such would indubitably keep it as the top dog, but because of Tier 0's strict requirements it just doesn't work out sadly.

I mean, I'm still surprised how it still stays as Tier 0 and only downgraded just now by the end of the year lmao

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

Wasnt this downgraded here?

Self-Reference ENGINE Tier 0 Downgrade

With these hands I give. With others I take. ...So, very straightforward, all-in-all: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Giant_Corpora_of_Knowledge https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Alpha_Centauri_(Self-Reference_ENGINE) These guys don't qualify for Tier 0 anymore, as can be plainly seen from...

vsbattles.com

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Wasnt this downgraded here?

Self-Reference ENGINE Tier 0 Downgrade

With these hands I give. With others I take. ...So, very straightforward, all-in-all: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Giant_Corpora_of_Knowledge https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Alpha_Centauri_(Self-Reference_ENGINE) These guys don't qualify for Tier 0 anymore, as can be plainly seen from...

vsbattles.com

Nope. Nemo, the God Tier of Self-Reference Engine, remained untouched, as you can see on the profile.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I mean, I'm still surprised how it still stays as Tier 0 and only downgraded just now by the end of the year lmao

Yeah. I figured since Ultima probably won't have time to do it I figured I'd do it myself.

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

My vote doesn't count but i agree with the downgrade

 

[NatzuX]

agree specifically manifestation's key downgrade to High 1-A+, but true self still is 0.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

agree specifically manifestation's key downgrade to High 1-A+, but true self still is 0.

Why specifically do you believe the true self is 0 ?

 

[Phoenks]

The second key should be outright deleted. First one is fine for High 1-A+. I believe the second degree of it, specifically.

Anyway, why did you make this? Pretty sure Ultima had plans.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Yes he had plans, but we can't be 100% sure when he'll be able to get around to doing it. I figured just changing it to High 1-A+ instead is something I could accomplish so that he doesn't have to, lessening his load a tad.

Thanks for the feedback though

 

[NatzuX]

Why specifically do you believe the true self is 0 ?

Because sre manifestation key is High 1-A+ but true self so beyond and transcends his avatar, also it's absolute nothingness. So, It's tier 0.

 

[Churchill]

If it was that simple, Ultima would have added it to his downgrade thread instead of saying he'd tackle it later.
Should've just let it be tbh, he's the one that introduced the verse and the new system after all and he said he'd handle it

 

[Jockey-1337]

Because sre manifestation key is High 1-A+ but true self so beyond and transcends his avatar, also it's absolute nothingness. So, It's tier 0.

I agree. True Nemo transcends its avatar and its plot/story. So it should stay in tier 0. It is changeless, monadic, and PSWversal cannot be described by symbols or language.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

I am perfectly okay with the 2nd key being approved to be Tier 0 if that happens. My main issue is the 1st key

 

[Jockey-1337]

I agree, two tier 0 things cannot exist in the same verse in the current version of tier 0. The "Shell" should be downgraded.