SCP-999 vs SCP-682

[Undylan]

I wonder how something like this will go down without any interference.

Both SCPs are in their Expanded Canon keys. 999 is at full potential.

SRA is used here. Who wins?

999:
682
Incon:

 

[Kirinator07]

Can SCP-682 adapt to passiveness?

 

[Undylan]

Can SCP-682 adapt to passiveness?

It depends if even EC 682 can overcome the empathic manipulation that can affect the Sacrlet King.

 

[Kirinator07]

The Scarlet King scales way higher than SCP-6820-A

 

[Undylan]

The Scarlet King scales way higher than SCP-6820-A

How so?

 

[Wardokman69]

Its already happened in termination log. 682 didnt resist it at first until some time that it start utilizing 999's power to go on a rampage.

 

[Wardokman69]

The Scarlet King scales way higher than SCP-6820-A

Djoric Scarlet King? No.
Tufto proposal & 6747-C yes

 

[Kirinator07]

Djoric Scarlet King? No.
Tufto proposal & 6747-C yes

Djoric SK scales higher than 3125 which is comparable to 6820-A, 6820-A adapted to tier 0 so it stomps here.

 

[Undylan]

Djoric SK scales higher than 3125 which is comparable to 6820-A, 6820-A adapted to tier 0 so it stomps here.

Not using the 6820 Key, just EC key.

SCP-6820 really happens when you completely try to destroy their concept which 999 doesn't do here.

 

[Kirinator07]

Not using the 6820 Key, just EC key.

SCP-6820 really happens when you completely try to destroy their concept which 999 doesn't do here.

6820 key is part of EC key, 999 could affect the SK which scales higher than 6820-A, but it resists High 1-A mind hax.

 

[Undylan]

6820 key is part of EC key, 999 could affect the SK which scales higher than 6820-A, but it resists High 1-A mind hax.

Any proof on that?

 

[Kirinator07]

Any proof on that?

6820-A resists mind hax from several other abstract ideas like 3125.

 

[Lou_change]

SCP-999 has canonically effected SCP-682 and SCP-682 only recovered after SCP-999 was removed from it's presence it has also no been proven SCP-682 has since adapted a resistance to SCP-999 and given it's power is supposedly several times greater in this match. I believe this is a canonically stomp in SCP-999's favor.

 

[Kirinator07]

That and the Scarlet King scaling higher than SCP-3125 who's comparable to SCP-6820-A brings me to side with SCP-999.

 

[Lou_change]

That and the Scarlet King scaling higher than SCP-3125 who's comparable to SCP-6820-A brings me to side with SCP-999.

Not quite, scarlet king scales to Noospheric Instances not Extra-Noospheric Instances of SCP-3125

 

[Kirinator07]

Not quite, scarlet king scales to Noospheric Instances not Extra-Noospheric Instances of SCP-3125

So they're roughly equal, still shouldn't really be a problem as SCP-999 considering it grows.

 

[Lou_change]

So they're roughly equal

no not even close SCP-5800 seems to be inside the difference between those two keys.

 

[Kirinator07]

no not even close SCP-5800 seems to be inside the difference between those two keys.

Does 5800 scale to or above the noosphere.

 

[Lou_change]

You could just look at the ap section for an answer

 

[Kirinator07]

You could just look at the ap section for an answer

From the looks of it, the Noosphere scales to SCP-5800, dunno why people pulling statements like the infinite hierarchy of alephs transcending the Noosphere.

 

[Lou_change]

SCP-5800: The weakest member of such hierarchy should be at least comparable to SCP-5712, which is described as 'less than nothing' to the rest of its competitors.

SCP-5712: Exists as an ideatic being existing parallel to the Noosphere and being able to consume parts of it. Would go on to consume the entire Noosphere in 12 years

 

[Kirinator07]

Also SCP-5800: Is host to an entire hierarchy of ideatic beings which operate in a subspace adjacent to the Noosphere. This hierarchy is infinite, stated to extend to all possible uncountables before inaccessible cardinals.

 

[Lou_change]

If put an ant next to Mount Everest they would be adjacent to each other but there is a size difference

 

[Kirinator07]

Notice it states that it extends to all possible uncountables before inaccessible cardinals.

 

[Lou_change]

Notice it states that it extends to all possible uncountables before inaccessible cardinals.

Then make a CRT because the lowest members of that hierarchy scale to something that would destroy the whole noosphere

 

[Kirinator07]

Just to point this out that 682 did eventually adapt to 999 and can get affected by these things. It's just that it has never canonically been affected by these things for longer than 24 hours, which is the time limit you need to surpass to claim a victory. 682 usually just resists eventually and obtains the power via adaptation.

 

[Lou_change]

Source

 

[Kirinator07]

Source

Check its profile

 

[Lou_change]

It has resistances to other instances of mind hax but that doesn't disprove anything.

 

[Kirinator07]

It has resistances to other instances of mind hax but that doesn't disprove anything.

Check the note on the bottom of its page

 

[Lou_change]

Why would that matter

 

[Kirinator07]

Why would that matter

Because 682 already encountered 999

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Allow me to correct a common misconception: SCP-999 isn't remotely as high-tiered as most cosmic tiers in the SCP mythos, as it being the Scarlet King's child comes from a standalone Tale that no major canon uses. Yes, it crosslinks to the Djoricverse, but in his SCP interpretations, Djoric clearly portrays SCP-231-7's child as a grotesque monster, and the author's Tales always supersede non-original ones, so scaling SCP-999 to Djoric's Scarlet King in any way is invalid. I'll have this closed as a stomp.