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So i think we should give Satan Concept Manipulation based on the information a gather. And give him Zenon and Jenny resistance too it so please take your time reading this. And if you dont have time just check my Quick Summary of it.
First i checked his scene from CB Chara Go Nagai World Ep-1: https://youtu.be/x2wFlBVdOWM?t=1802
In this scene Baron Ashura figures out thanks too his investigation That Ryo Asuke is Satan he even tought that Satan thanks too his powers created the world of CB Chara Go Nagai like usual. Wait like usual yes like usual because Satan confirms that he can create worlds but this time it wasnt him.
Second is this https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=1524 From CB Chara Go Nagai World Ep 3:
Satan explain in great detail how God creates his characters worlds and stories showing that Satan has great knowledge about creation.
For example (in Satan own words) if God wants to draw Mazinger Z he first has a vague image of Mazinger Z. Next he solidifies his idea and then its born. while the orginal manga,s are born the ideas that are not interesting or are not good enough are discarded in the world of CB Chara Go Nagai .
Wat is most important too remember that the characters of CB Chara Go Nagai are parody counter parts of the manga version this is also confirmed by Satan here is the clip https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=1105
So now you ask yourself what is the scaling of Satant concept manipulation? Well its should be universal and higher but their is one problem and that is his father God who not only weakend Satan but is far more powerfull then him because if it wasnt for him Satan would recreate the Devilman verse in his vision need prove well if got it but first this from the original Devilman:
http://***********.xyz/devilman/chapter-5.14?page=43 Satan talks about how God created everthing in the microcosm but made one error the demons. So God decided by destroying the microcosm he would be able to fix his errors. Satan didnt like this and he rebelled against His father and won see here: http://***********.xyz/devilman/chapter-5.14?page=44
So if you wonder why God couldn't recreate the Devilman verse and fix all his errors it because of his son Satan had enough power too stop it and always rebel against it. And because Satan, Zenon and Jenny are unaffected by the changes of God when he re starts the Devilman verse. If you want some prove of it well here it is:
First in CB Chara Go Nagai World EP - 3 OVA Final at the end of the show God create a new world ( that world being violence jack) everthing was rewritten even Satan lost his memories and became Ryo Asuka again. however as for Psyhco Jenny she seems unaffected by the changes of God and even helps Miki to find Akari who is Jack in this world. here is the clip: https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=2527
Second in the manga Amon The Dark Side of The Devilman, Amon Zenon Satan and Jenny seem to be aware of God power to restart the world of Devil man and how its a pushiment for Satan too lose his loved one Akira and this is the only fate he cannot change here are the pages:
https://www.***********.net/amon/11/16 https://www.***********.net/amon/11/17
And also in this is the page that Zenon is also aware of Satan curse:https://www.***********.net/amon/24/8
So back too the orginale question could Satan recreate the Devilman verse if it wasnt for God and the anwser lies in Devilman Lady.
http://***********.xyz/devilman-lady/chapter-10.22?page=21 Akira pretty much confrims that Satan has enough power that he could recreate the world physical world in his image but he cant why well their is God who is the big Daddy of the verse and he took most of Satan powers away so the best thing Satan could do now is stopping God from fully recreating the Devilman verse in his vision which is still a impressive feat. This is also why i believe many demons have conceptual resistance because if it wasnt for Satan granting them that the might by gone. and it gives this explantion a whole new meaning
http://***********.xyz/devilman-lady/chapter-15.01?page=17 http://***********.xyz/devilman-lady/chapter-15.01?page=18
As long as their is someone left to image it it wont disappear it gains life separate from the will of its creator. So can God kill Satan and the Demons no why because its far too late for because they are all keep developing on their own and getting stronger by each serie it truly is a endless conflict.
Also Satan is in a weakend stated according too Amon The Dark Side of The Devilman. Satan talks about how god feared his power on earth so he took a part of satan from him and that part because amon or in satan words his shadow. Satan also tell Amon if the became one again they can defeat god.
The pages:
https://www.***********.net/amon/3/150 Satan is in a weaked stated https://www.***********.net/amon/3/155 Amon is Satan shadow https://www.***********.net/amon/3/177 if the become one again the can defeat God and become the ruler of the Devilman verse
Now is Satan conceptual manipulation on the same scaling as God well no but still pretty strong because if it wasnt for God he could recreate the Devilman verse in his own vision as said by Akira in this page: http://***********.xyz/devilman-lady/chapter-10.24?page=3
Note: durning the recreation in CB Chara Go Nagai World EP - 3 OVA Final i said Satan lost his memories and became Ryo Asuka again. This can be seen as a weakness but that highly debatable here is the clip: https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=1937
Edit: https://imgur.com/a/FEh3G this part of the final chapter of Violence jack pretty much proves that Satan created the world of Violence jack and its universe after the end of Original Devilman. Not only can satan create stuff out of nothing but he has the same power as God when it comes down to creation. This then also might explain how he defeat God for the first time
Quick summary of Sata
First change his tier from 5-B to Low 2-C based on these statesment http://***********.xyz/devilman/chapter-5.14?page=44 he won his first war against God http://***********.xyz/devilman-lady/chapter-10.22?page=21 Akira pretty much confrims that Satan has enough power that he could recreate the world physical world in his image and again this from Violence Jack https://m.imgur.com/a/FEh3G. also noted that according too Amon The Dark Side of The Devilman Satan is in a weakend stated and that him and Amon were ones one being here are the pages:
https://www.***********.net/amon/3/150 Satan is in a weaked stated https://www.***********.net/amon/3/155 Amon is Satan shadow https://www.***********.net/amon/3/177 if the become one again the can defeat God and become the ruler of the Devilman verse
Power/Abilities: Concept manipulation ( based on Demons,Angels,etc are conceptual beings from this chapter of Devilman G http://*********.club/devilman-grimoire/3?page=27. so the only to get rid of them is erasing the concept of them so God would have erased the concept of demons if it wasnt for Satan rebelling against him and winning and because of the info from Violence Jack that Satan has the same power of creation as God and how in-depth the story goes through about creation https://*********.me/manga/devilman-lady/s1/v14/c5/16 from this page up too page 34 Asuke goes in depth talking about creation there is also this https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=1524 from CB Chara Go Nagai World Ep 3: Satan explain in great detail how God creates his characters worlds and stories showing that Satan has great knowledge about creation.
Law manipulation/ Physics Manipulation( based on the this statement from Violence Jack https://imgur.com/a/FEh3G and this from CB Chara Go Nagai World Ep-1: https://youtu.be/x2wFlBVdOWM?t=1802 )
Power Nullification (either add or changes the description with 'denies any abilities based on this http://i.imgur.com/UdU1FLA.jpg and this http://***********.xyz/devilman-vs-hades/chapter-10?page=16 . ) this one is not necessary but would be nice for better understanding
Willpower manipulation (maybe it has been mentioned multiple times that Demons corrupt peoples will).
Time and Space manipulation( change the description of both because of the info from Violence Jack)
Mind manipulation ( maybe a new description because of the stuff with Zenon in Violence Jack)
Fusionism ( we need to talk about this and how broken its is in Devilman)
Reality Warping Resistance ( best to changes the description of the Resistance because of how Satan, Zenon and Jenny are seem fine when God rewrites the Devilman verse. first is this from CB Chara Go Nagai World EP - 3 https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=2527 and then there is also these two pages from Amon The Dark Side of The Devilman: https://www.***********.net/amon/11/16 https://www.***********.net/amon/11/17. Now i dont know if this would apply to Devilman as well but that we can debate.
After this is all done we might have to changes these stats:
Attack Potency
Speed
Lifting Strength
Durability
Range'
First i checked his scene from CB Chara Go Nagai World Ep-1: https://youtu.be/x2wFlBVdOWM?t=1802
In this scene Baron Ashura figures out thanks too his investigation That Ryo Asuke is Satan he even tought that Satan thanks too his powers created the world of CB Chara Go Nagai like usual. Wait like usual yes like usual because Satan confirms that he can create worlds but this time it wasnt him.
Second is this https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=1524 From CB Chara Go Nagai World Ep 3:
Satan explain in great detail how God creates his characters worlds and stories showing that Satan has great knowledge about creation.
For example (in Satan own words) if God wants to draw Mazinger Z he first has a vague image of Mazinger Z. Next he solidifies his idea and then its born. while the orginal manga,s are born the ideas that are not interesting or are not good enough are discarded in the world of CB Chara Go Nagai .
Wat is most important too remember that the characters of CB Chara Go Nagai are parody counter parts of the manga version this is also confirmed by Satan here is the clip https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=1105
So now you ask yourself what is the scaling of Satant concept manipulation? Well its should be universal and higher but their is one problem and that is his father God who not only weakend Satan but is far more powerfull then him because if it wasnt for him Satan would recreate the Devilman verse in his vision need prove well if got it but first this from the original Devilman:
http://***********.xyz/devilman/chapter-5.14?page=43 Satan talks about how God created everthing in the microcosm but made one error the demons. So God decided by destroying the microcosm he would be able to fix his errors. Satan didnt like this and he rebelled against His father and won see here: http://***********.xyz/devilman/chapter-5.14?page=44
So if you wonder why God couldn't recreate the Devilman verse and fix all his errors it because of his son Satan had enough power too stop it and always rebel against it. And because Satan, Zenon and Jenny are unaffected by the changes of God when he re starts the Devilman verse. If you want some prove of it well here it is:
First in CB Chara Go Nagai World EP - 3 OVA Final at the end of the show God create a new world ( that world being violence jack) everthing was rewritten even Satan lost his memories and became Ryo Asuka again. however as for Psyhco Jenny she seems unaffected by the changes of God and even helps Miki to find Akari who is Jack in this world. here is the clip: https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=2527
Second in the manga Amon The Dark Side of The Devilman, Amon Zenon Satan and Jenny seem to be aware of God power to restart the world of Devil man and how its a pushiment for Satan too lose his loved one Akira and this is the only fate he cannot change here are the pages:
https://www.***********.net/amon/11/16 https://www.***********.net/amon/11/17
And also in this is the page that Zenon is also aware of Satan curse:https://www.***********.net/amon/24/8
So back too the orginale question could Satan recreate the Devilman verse if it wasnt for God and the anwser lies in Devilman Lady.
http://***********.xyz/devilman-lady/chapter-10.22?page=21 Akira pretty much confrims that Satan has enough power that he could recreate the world physical world in his image but he cant why well their is God who is the big Daddy of the verse and he took most of Satan powers away so the best thing Satan could do now is stopping God from fully recreating the Devilman verse in his vision which is still a impressive feat. This is also why i believe many demons have conceptual resistance because if it wasnt for Satan granting them that the might by gone. and it gives this explantion a whole new meaning
http://***********.xyz/devilman-lady/chapter-15.01?page=17 http://***********.xyz/devilman-lady/chapter-15.01?page=18
As long as their is someone left to image it it wont disappear it gains life separate from the will of its creator. So can God kill Satan and the Demons no why because its far too late for because they are all keep developing on their own and getting stronger by each serie it truly is a endless conflict.
Also Satan is in a weakend stated according too Amon The Dark Side of The Devilman. Satan talks about how god feared his power on earth so he took a part of satan from him and that part because amon or in satan words his shadow. Satan also tell Amon if the became one again they can defeat god.
The pages:
https://www.***********.net/amon/3/150 Satan is in a weaked stated https://www.***********.net/amon/3/155 Amon is Satan shadow https://www.***********.net/amon/3/177 if the become one again the can defeat God and become the ruler of the Devilman verse
Now is Satan conceptual manipulation on the same scaling as God well no but still pretty strong because if it wasnt for God he could recreate the Devilman verse in his own vision as said by Akira in this page: http://***********.xyz/devilman-lady/chapter-10.24?page=3
Note: durning the recreation in CB Chara Go Nagai World EP - 3 OVA Final i said Satan lost his memories and became Ryo Asuka again. This can be seen as a weakness but that highly debatable here is the clip: https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=1937
Edit: https://imgur.com/a/FEh3G this part of the final chapter of Violence jack pretty much proves that Satan created the world of Violence jack and its universe after the end of Original Devilman. Not only can satan create stuff out of nothing but he has the same power as God when it comes down to creation. This then also might explain how he defeat God for the first time
Quick summary of Sata
First change his tier from 5-B to Low 2-C based on these statesment http://***********.xyz/devilman/chapter-5.14?page=44 he won his first war against God http://***********.xyz/devilman-lady/chapter-10.22?page=21 Akira pretty much confrims that Satan has enough power that he could recreate the world physical world in his image and again this from Violence Jack https://m.imgur.com/a/FEh3G. also noted that according too Amon The Dark Side of The Devilman Satan is in a weakend stated and that him and Amon were ones one being here are the pages:
https://www.***********.net/amon/3/150 Satan is in a weaked stated https://www.***********.net/amon/3/155 Amon is Satan shadow https://www.***********.net/amon/3/177 if the become one again the can defeat God and become the ruler of the Devilman verse
Power/Abilities: Concept manipulation ( based on Demons,Angels,etc are conceptual beings from this chapter of Devilman G http://*********.club/devilman-grimoire/3?page=27. so the only to get rid of them is erasing the concept of them so God would have erased the concept of demons if it wasnt for Satan rebelling against him and winning and because of the info from Violence Jack that Satan has the same power of creation as God and how in-depth the story goes through about creation https://*********.me/manga/devilman-lady/s1/v14/c5/16 from this page up too page 34 Asuke goes in depth talking about creation there is also this https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=1524 from CB Chara Go Nagai World Ep 3: Satan explain in great detail how God creates his characters worlds and stories showing that Satan has great knowledge about creation.
Law manipulation/ Physics Manipulation( based on the this statement from Violence Jack https://imgur.com/a/FEh3G and this from CB Chara Go Nagai World Ep-1: https://youtu.be/x2wFlBVdOWM?t=1802 )
Power Nullification (either add or changes the description with 'denies any abilities based on this http://i.imgur.com/UdU1FLA.jpg and this http://***********.xyz/devilman-vs-hades/chapter-10?page=16 . ) this one is not necessary but would be nice for better understanding
Willpower manipulation (maybe it has been mentioned multiple times that Demons corrupt peoples will).
Time and Space manipulation( change the description of both because of the info from Violence Jack)
Mind manipulation ( maybe a new description because of the stuff with Zenon in Violence Jack)
Fusionism ( we need to talk about this and how broken its is in Devilman)
Reality Warping Resistance ( best to changes the description of the Resistance because of how Satan, Zenon and Jenny are seem fine when God rewrites the Devilman verse. first is this from CB Chara Go Nagai World EP - 3 https://youtu.be/2qol4VFOHL0?t=2527 and then there is also these two pages from Amon The Dark Side of The Devilman: https://www.***********.net/amon/11/16 https://www.***********.net/amon/11/17. Now i dont know if this would apply to Devilman as well but that we can debate.
After this is all done we might have to changes these stats:
Attack Potency
Speed
Lifting Strength
Durability
Range'
