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Sasuke vs Sarada
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And that's why she got this one
Comparable stats + better sharingan = overwhelming
He's no longer better than her at taijutsu (cuz she can see his moves), Ninja tools (she can see their trajectory+aim quicker) and has a harder time hitting with jutsus
voting Sarada FRA
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pretty sure Sarada just does this and Sasuke gets splattered
better Sharingan makes this easier to pull off as well and negates Sasuke's better shurikenjutsu and (maybe) ninjutsu cuz she can dodge/block literally everything, and she folds Sasuke in CQC simply cuz she's that much stronger
Sarada gets my vote
better Sharingan makes this easier to pull off as well and negates Sasuke's better shurikenjutsu and (maybe) ninjutsu cuz she can dodge/block literally everything, and she folds Sasuke in CQC simply cuz she's that much stronger
Sarada gets my vote
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In terms of usage in this fight I think it's pretty negligible
it'll probably go down to skill and arsenal.
She'd probably one-shot if she landed her chakra enhanced punch but Sasuke has the Sharingan so he can read her spike in chakra in her fists and avoid it
it'll probably go down to skill and arsenal.
She'd probably one-shot if she landed her chakra enhanced punch but Sasuke has the Sharingan so he can read her spike in chakra in her fists and avoid it
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Sarada is definitely more skilled than Sasuke though, this Sarada is comparable to Boruto who's at worst Chunin level and at best Jounin level with the Boruto Movie Novel statement, and she's comparable if not superior to him in this key (Shinki calls Boruto trash but gives her and Mitsuki kudos). She also has a more varied bag as well so I think I'm voting for her, mid diff.
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they're not, that's the problem
Sarada's base AP is comparable to Sasuke but with chakra enhanced strength she can smack the sh*t out of people on her level
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She 1 shot Tarui during the first Chunin Exams
Tarui is basically featless, but as a genin that past the first 2 parts of the exam AND primarily goes for physical damage (as her first move against Sarada was a Lariat), she should be comparable to other Genin, who are all on par with Land of Waves Sasuke, as he's used as the benchmark for genin-level characters in the verse
the fact that Sarada could 1 shot Tarui means she could either do the same to Sasuke and she stomps, or, assuming Tarui is weaker than Land of Waves Sasuke, she still deals very significant damage to him with any of her attacks.
Arkenis
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I guess that's fine. I still think CS1 should balance that out given it's own boost in ap was reminiscent of Orochimaru to Dosu, and his body can't contain it.
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Boruto scales to Sarada and said he'd die if he wasn't careful.
She also goes on (in her future keys though) to one-shot those comparable to her peers (Boruto and Mitsuki), so yeah it's pretty consistently a one-shot gap inverse.
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Tbf, narratively speaking, the konoha 12 by the start of CE are not at all representative of average genin. Literally none of them. Most genin don’t have kg, or special clan jutsu, or great intellect.
There’s a reason why in a room full of 150 genin, the only ones to make the final round were either konoha 12 or sand genin. And it was a year where they had to hold preliminaries because there were apparently too many good candidates. That’s how good the konoha 12 were compared to most genin.
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Wait, what? why? IIRC Sasuke at this point is stated several times to be a cut above the other genins, pretty much defeated 2 chunins at the beginning of LoW arc and was capable of throwing hands with Haku before the ice mirrors in the second fight with Zabuza.
Why would Sasuke of all people be used as the benchmark for genin-level fighters?
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Sasuke was not holding his own against Haku, Zabuza explicitly stated that he was holding back and that when he isn't he's stronger than either him or Kakashi. The only reason Sasuke was starting to land hits is because he was starting to adapt thanks to the Sharingan and because fighting life or death is confirmed to be a better way to grow than actually training in Naruto, also again because Haku was ******* around trying not to kill him or Naruto because he liked Naruto.
Arkenis
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Idk Haku made it really clear he was trying to kill Sasuke and stating Sasuke was avoiding vital hits. If Haku's holding back, he wouldn't go for vital hits and he wouldn't be impressed by Sasuke's movements. The kid literally gets a hit on Haku while weak and protecting Naruto. I doubt he's holding back in skill is all.
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because everyone in Boruto by the time of the Chunin exams are all relative to if not stronger than BoG Boruto who is already at Chunin level despite not even being a genin
Considering how Tarui and her team were all capable of making it to the third stage of the Chunin exams, they should be in that same level of power as BoG Boruto, who has comparable to feats to Land of Waves Sasuke to begin with
At the very least, if we assume Tarui is completely irrelevant in this debate, Sarada should be significantly stronger than BoG Boruto, as Versus Momoshiki Boruto admitted that Sarada could kill him with her Chakra-Enhanced Strength, so regardless Sarada is still stronger
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Even better than I remember
That still doesn't tell us anything. Chunin level can go anywhere from Iruka/Mizuki to the demon brothers Sasuke blitzed or some other character.
I haven't seen Boruto so I can't talk about those supposed "feats" but if they are comparable to Sasuke then the profile definitely doesn't reflect that, granted Sasuke's doesn't reflect how well he performed against Haku either so I can't complain.
Also, are we seriously using the chunin exams as proof? Ino was about to reach the third stage if it wasn't for Sakura's plot armor mental disorder, Shikamaru (who isn't remotely that strong physically) reached said stage of the exams and I'm pretty sure Boruto had the same thing going on. Reaching the third stage doesn't mean they are as strong as the others.
Hell, why are we even assuming this Tarui is comparable to Sasuke too?
Still, that is only relevant if we assume Boruto and Sasuke are equals which I argue should not really be the case as Sasuke was actually winning against Haku and could somewhat keep up with him (7-B) even after Haku actually trying to end the fight as soon as possible and had to resort to attacking Naruto for Sasuke to actually be defeated.
Boruto for his part was able to keep up with a holding back Mirai who is currently 7-C.
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As for this match...
Sasuke has better H2H skills + higher AP and actually the better sharingan by the sheer fact that his is right eye has 2 tomoe (yeah I know the left only has one but still) + being a genius
Sarada for her part has a way to somewhat match Sasuke's AP (idk how much stronger she is with CES but at the very best I'd say it is comparable to Sasuke) + more experience with the Sharingan + possible the bigger bag of jutsu
I'm leaning towards Sasuke for being able to overwhelm Sarada's single tomoe sharingan with shuriken stuff and long distance fire style jutsu + his dual tomoe right eye should give him a huge advantage over her in close quarters along with the better feats
Sasuke has better H2H skills + higher AP and actually the better sharingan by the sheer fact that his is right eye has 2 tomoe (yeah I know the left only has one but still) + being a genius
Sarada for her part has a way to somewhat match Sasuke's AP (idk how much stronger she is with CES but at the very best I'd say it is comparable to Sasuke) + more experience with the Sharingan + possible the bigger bag of jutsu
I'm leaning towards Sasuke for being able to overwhelm Sarada's single tomoe sharingan with shuriken stuff and long distance fire style jutsu + his dual tomoe right eye should give him a huge advantage over her in close quarters along with the better feats
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The profiles currently assume that Haku was holding back against Sasuke so his feats of keeping up with Haku isn't really relevant here. The fact that he's keeping up with Haku who's relative to Zabuza, Kakashi and by extension Kn0 Naruto shows you how much of an outlier his performance is within that arc.
Also if you want to play that game Sarada with her Sharingan is able to dodge attacks from Shin who dodged Naruto and forced him to dodge his attacks. Both outliers of course.
They scale to the same value on the profiles? Unless you're talking scaling chains, they just aren't that far apart, and even so that's without her Chakra Enhanced Strength which is way superior to her normal strikes in lore and story. Sasuke isn't matching her in CES maybe unless he use CM.
I'd say they're probably equal in experience, Sarada only got hers two arcs prior which isn't long inverse, maybe a few months at best.
Sarada's also a genius in her own right so it's not really a point in favor in Sasuke but moreso neutral.
None of this is overwhelming Sarada tbh. Not only can she fight back with her own Shuriken stuff as she's mastered Shuriken Jutsu as well but long distance fire style jutsu she also has fire ball jutsu but also has lightning balls she can spam and has a lightning cloak she can put on which massively increases her speed.
In terms of abilities they're damn near the same, Sarada's also fought Chunin level characters like Buntan in the Academy, and Boruto as well. With Shinki even acknowledging her and not Boruto.
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I'm on my phone so I cannot provide scans or but she was an honor student in the Academy and top of the class in Shurikenjutsu, she fought Buntan who in the novels who's stated to be Chunin level. id say to watch the fight between sarada and Buntan cause it shows her biq since I can't describe it on my phone, but she's able to outplay Buntan despite being at a massive terrain and stamina disadvantage.
Later as a Genin, with her team she was also able to fight and defeat Ashimaru and Zetsu both characters which the former is comparable to Konohamaru in skill, and the latter also scales to Konohamaru. She was able to formulate plans against both of them and killed the former with her Chakra Enhanced Punch (amped by Team 7s Gale Palm).
Also thanks to Mitsuki's help, Boruto and Sarada were able to fight Mirai and win although she was probably holding back.
All this is consistent with her being comparable or superior to Boruto who's stated to be Jonin level prior to the Chunin Exams.
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Pretty sure it’s already stated by sasuke that sarada is for better skilled then he was at the same age?
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That's way later in the story (well in-universe it's just few weeks or months but from our it's dozens of episodes)
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Pre-Genin Boruto scales to Sasuke's fireball jutsu calc
Chunin Exams Sarada scales marginally higher than Pre-Genin Boruto simply due to experience and more time training
Sarada with Chakra Enhanced Strength can greatly threaten Chunin Exams Boruto to such an extent that Boruto stated that she was "monstrous"
Sarada should definitely have higher AP
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Okay Sasuke is stronger and his Sharingan is better than before.
Id say their skill is a lot closer than before, id still personally give it to Sarada based on what I said but honestly think it's negligible (.5 difference if I'm using arbitrary numbers).
Sarada should be able to react fine to the Chidori thanks to the reaction amp her Sharingan grants her. Especially if he uses it from a good distance away she could easily avoid it.
However Sarada at this point still has issues with her stamina because of the Sharingan, and I don't remember how good Sasuke's stamina is at this point but it should be better than Sarada's. At worst though he pulls out Curse Mark and is beating her ass.
So I'll vote Sasuke here
Id say their skill is a lot closer than before, id still personally give it to Sarada based on what I said but honestly think it's negligible (.5 difference if I'm using arbitrary numbers).
Sarada should be able to react fine to the Chidori thanks to the reaction amp her Sharingan grants her. Especially if he uses it from a good distance away she could easily avoid it.
However Sarada at this point still has issues with her stamina because of the Sharingan, and I don't remember how good Sasuke's stamina is at this point but it should be better than Sarada's. At worst though he pulls out Curse Mark and is beating her ass.
So I'll vote Sasuke here
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If she can dodge chidori three times I could see her winning there, he's cocky enough to try too. CM would give him the edge on stamina I think. If Sasuke decides he doesn't need Chidori though, then I genuinely don't see her lasting long against him. Will Sarada really pull out her standard equipment though? Never see her use it unless that's all in anime.
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her standard equipment is generally just standard ninja stuff, so yeah she'll use them and she has
the healing spray she gets arcs later so that's not useable here. She does have a flash bomb but she uses it an arc later not here so it's arguable if it's something she has here or not since we have no idea
the healing spray she gets arcs later so that's not useable here. She does have a flash bomb but she uses it an arc later not here so it's arguable if it's something she has here or not since we have no idea
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this is still momoshiki arc sarada?
ok now Sasuke stomps, he scales to 223 tons while Sarada upscales from 18
Sasuke is over a hundred times stronger
ok now Sasuke stomps, he scales to 223 tons while Sarada upscales from 18
Sasuke is over a hundred times stronger
Arkenis
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No he doesn't, he's just 100t. His Chidori is maybe that strong? That's Sasuke retrival Gaara that scales to 223t, his sand's really 7-A but Sasuke never fought that Gaara anyway. Sarada's got two amps above that 18tons, I don't see how that's a stomp.
