Sargeras Downgrade

[WeeklyBattles]

So there has been a lot of problems with the way Sargeras is tiered, mainly the reasoning that he is Multi-Galaxy level for "Causing devastation across vast stretches of reality in his fight with the other members of the Pantheon". This in and of itself is not a 3-B feat as 'vast stretches of reality' is too vague to warrant a 3-B tier. There is also the fact that the word 'reality' in this case potentially does not refer to the universe as a whole, making the feat even less useable.

From what i have seen so far the most legitimate feat that Sargeras DOES have comes from wiping out planetary systems, a solid 4-B feat.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Given what was brought up in the other thread I am absolutely for Sargeras being changed. We have a solid basline for him at 4-B, so if worst comes to worst and we don't get any other feat for him, he is still at stellar levels of power.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

BUMP

 

[Kaltias]

I agree

 

[The_Everlasting]

Fully agree.

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

Meh. Whatever floats your boat I guess. I'm not one to judge tiers.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Bummmmp

 

[Antvasima]

Wasn't there another titan under Sargeras' control, who could destroy the universe, or am I misremembering?

Anyway, it is probably best to ask the people listed under Warcraft in the Knowledgeable Members List to give input here.

 

[ThePerpetual]

I remember there being a pretty in-depth discussion about his current rating a couple of months ago, looking through the forum history at one point...

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Ant This thread was made AFTER a lengthy discussion as to why the rating is wrong, with the current rating based heavily on what thing could mean or what they may imply instead of solid feats

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1241575

 

[Antvasima]

@ThePerpetual

Yes, I took part in it, and there were some solid arguments for this rating from what I vaguely recall.

 

[Antvasima]

@WeeklyBattles

Okay. Sorry about that then, but I still think that it might be a good idea to ask for input from people knowledgeable about this.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

We did, several staff participated in the thread and unfortunately Myrad, the guy knowledgeable on Warcraft, couldnt give us a straight answer, instead going on to try to claim that the feat was based on the metaphysical and philosophical definiton of the word "reality" and then questioning people's knowledge of the english language

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that you are correct then. Myriad did seem sensible when I talked with him though.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

Well, several staff members seem to agree with you.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Okay so can this be applied? Because this would likely affect a few more characters

 

[Assaltwaffle]

I don't think anyone else has a problem with it that hasn't decided they won't be discussing.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that it can probably be applied, yes, but remember to update any Warcraft characters scaled from him accordingly.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Already decided on, but I agree with the change at face value at least.

 

[MasterOfArda]

Wouldn't "vast streches of reality" be 4-A?

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Wouldn't "vast streches of reality" be 4-A?

Completely unquantifiable and subjective.

 

[MasterOfArda]

Okay.

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

This thread is done, by the way. We can close this.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

This thread is done, by the way. We can close this.

I do as I am bid.