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Flowey should take this no problem. He's seen everything Sans has to offer and has killed him many times over. Unless it's Pre-Game Flowey, and just as he awakens, then Sans has no chance here whatsoever.
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Asriel Dreemurr with all the souls is MUCH stronger than Chara. Also, how is this still a debate? Flowey knows everything Sans will do, has unavoidable attacks, and has killed Sans before.Smashbros39 said:no one knows how is going to win.
oh yeah, flowey in his true form, is as strong as chara right if so then sans is the winner no matter what flowey does.
if they are unavoidable attacks and also sans wasn't try to do anything anyway and he lets stuff happen like getting killed by flowey. Only if flowey kills PAPYRUS or CARES about what happen then we mite see sans fight to limits of his power.XXBeerusTheDestroyerXx said:Asriel Dreemurr with all the souls is MUCH stronger than Chara. Also, how is this still a debate? Flowey knows everything Sans will do, has unavoidable attacks, and has killed Sans before.Smashbros39 said:no one knows how is going to win.
oh yeah, flowey in his true form, is as strong as chara right if so then sans is the winner no matter what flowey does.
XXBeerusTheDestroyerXx said:True form implied Asriel. Even then, Omega Flowey has plenty of Hax, and can just play around with his saves and loads to get kill Sans. But yes, Flowey has seen Sans while fighting, did you not see his little speech about doing everything in the book? He's done a genocide plenty of times, and has been gotten to the point where he knows what every character will say or do, etc. Sans is included.
This is not Omega Flowey.MarvelFanatic119 said:Should this be closed on account that this is a stomp then?
Going by current Flowey, he should stomp Sans, as he has already killed Sans countless times.MarvelFanatic119 said:Oh, sorry. But does Flowey have prior knowledge on Sans?
Sans kept reapetedly deafeating chara who is multiversel also flowey didn't destroy the reality of the game flowey created and/or altered the reality of the gameDerpCity said:@Aldahshan Assuming it was their first time fighting, yes, base Flowey would lose, as Flowey himself confirmed it. Omega Flowey, however, is immeasurable and tier Multivere level. Sans can't contend with someone who can move through time or end all of reality the moment the fight started if they wanted to.
Yes omega flowey can fire thousands of attacks but chara's attacks are still incredibley very fast and sans was dodging them easily so nothing prevents sans from dodging omega flowey's also nothing proves omega flowey is above charaDerpCity said:@PaChi Last I read this thread, I saw both argued. I was simply arguing against his statement that Sans would beat Omega Flowey. After reading the Op more clearly, though, it appears to be Base Flowey. Whoops. :S
@Aldah Difference is that Omega Flowey is FAR beyond the Chara he fought. While not infinitely below their absolute, Chara still only had the swing of a knife. The amount of power in that attack doesn't matter when it can't connect. In contrast, Omega Flowey's attacks are sporadic, somewhat unpredictable, and numerous in number, and many have an AOE component.
Also, Chara fought Sans numerous times, not the other way around, and the only reason knew how many times they had fought was because of their facial expression. All that really changed between resets was Chara's face, not Sans' memory.
Based on the scenario in the op, Flowey should still win, though not certainly. Flowey, prior to Frisk's arrival, had been through literally everything the underground had to offer, sans getting Asgore to show him the souls. Even though he did say that Sans caused him his fair share of resets, the implications of the earlier statement is that he has killed him, meaning that he should win here because he's gone through the grueling process of killing him before, and can probably kill him again.
I am talking about chara at the end of the genocide run that chara destroy the entire reality of the game which contained a massive amount of timelines omega flowey altered the reality of the game but nothing proves omega flowey can actually destroy the reality of the gamePaChi2 said:@Alda Omega flowey is above chara, if you look at his stats during the battle you'll see the difference between both of them.
Undyne the undying didn't have lv yet she was able to harm chara the same thing could apply for chara vs omega flowey also sans deafeated the end of game chara numerous times nothing disproves that the chara that sans fought isn't chara at their full powerDerpCity said:Sans never fought the Chara that destroyed the entire reality of the game, he fought them before they got to that state. Omega Flowey should be far stronger than Chara anyway, as not only does Omega Flowey have 6 human souls as opposed to Chara's 2 at most, Omega Flowey has a little less than 500 times the LV they do.
I can't understand what you just said. .-.Aldahshan93161 said:Undyne the undying didn't have lv yet she was able to harm chara the same thing could apply for chara vs omega flowey also sans deafeated the end of game chara numerous times nothing disproves that the chara that sans fought isn't chara at their full powerDerpCity said:Sans never fought the Chara that destroyed the entire reality of the game, he fought them before they got to that state. Omega Flowey should be far stronger than Chara anyway, as not only does Omega Flowey have 6 human souls as opposed to Chara's 2 at most, Omega Flowey has a little less than 500 times the LV they do.