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I'm making this thread because I noticed that some character profiles in Sakamoto Days, like Shin, probably Osaragi and Shishiba, Sakamoto, and others, are outdated, lacking abilities they currently possess (or some don't even have a profile at all, and I don't know why, but whatever).
First, to make things as easy as possible, Shin should get the following Hax: Limited Mind Manipulation and Self-Mind Manipulation, Body Puppetry and Self-Body Puppetry, probably Limited Radiation Manipulation, Statistics Amplification and Enhanced Senses.
.Through thought rewriting, he sends electrical signals/electromagnetic waves to the basal ganglia of the enemy's brain, hijacking and controlling the target's mind and body for a fraction of a second. He can send these same electrical signals to his own brain to force his own movements even if he's in pain, and he can use it an unlimited number of times on himself, such as being able to move despite having a serious injury. By using his maximum power over himself, he can perceive his surroundings in slow motion, even managing to see an arrow grazing the air and space.
Shin's profile should be updated to at least hypersonic, or massively hypersonic, speed, and with increased perception speed with thought rewriting.
And perhaps the speed of light should be added as an attack speed through this ability as well, due to the speed of electromagnetic waves.
Sakamoto could get Multiple Selves denial or something like that.
Characters like Shishiba, possibly Osaragi, Nagumo, Uzuki, Sakamoto, and Takamura should be upgraded from hypersonic to massively hypersonic, or massively hypersonic+, since most of the aforementioned characters are superior to Shishiba, who can, with some effort, block and defend against Gozu's electric and rapid attacks.
Gozu mentions that he can move at the speed of lightning.
This statement is consistent, Because Gozu can manipulate and absorb natural energy and electricity to power himself up, Along with its strength and speed, it can also absorb the electricity of a large part of a city, this electricity being natural and giving meaning to its lightning speed.
According to what I saw with some friends, Gozu's feat of absorbing energy from a large part of Tokyo and several other areas should be around the Large Building or MCB level, which, if true, would improve the top tiers and not just Takamura at that level.
And one more thing I'd like to touch on is the LS (light speed) and FTL levels of the verse, since I've been analyzing it a bit.
For this analysis, I'll use two things to make this consistent, or at least so I can use it for the God Tier levels of the verse.
1: Kindaka.
Here are the scans about Kindaka's speed
Kindaka, from his first appearance, is declared to be the fastest assassin alive at that time, and also to this day. His speed is so great that he can even move at the speed of light.
Something worth highlighting is that Kindaka isn't fast because of his "light speed boots," but rather that he is the one who moves at the speed of light or even faster.
This mention of light speed remains consistent and is reaffirmed in his databook, mentioning that even after awakening, he reaches the speed of light, so the work maintains consistency in this reference.
Another remarkable feat within the story is that, after awakening, he confronts the Sakamoto family, where he faces Shin.
In a desperate moment, Shin decides to use his thought rewriting ability to stop him, sending out electromagnetic waves to gain the upper hand in the fight. However, Kindaka manages to sense this wave and dodges it, moving faster than the speed of light. Kindaka himself states that he felt something approaching and decided to dodge it, confirming that he was able to move at the speed of light or even faster for this feat.
The databook further validates this feat, as its mention of light speed includes a panel from the same chapter where he dodges this attack, thus establishing the coherence of light speed within the story.
A friend also calculated this, giving it a relativistic+ speed rating.
Now, who would scale up to this speed?
The only characters who should scale from this feat and character should be Skinny Sakamoto/Prime Sakamoto, Takamura, Uzuki in Takamura mode, and I think no one else (or maybe I'm forgetting someone).
I state that Sakamoto scales from this because it's acknowledged in his own profile that when Sakamoto was a student he was able to adapt to Kindaka's speed, so I suppose it's fine to use this to scale Sakamoto.
Here is Sakamoto's official profile if you want to see it, where it was acknowledged that he adapted to Kindaka's speed
2:FTL via Kanaguri.
This topic has been covered before, but I will revisit it, using the necessary requirements for light, within fiction, to be considered truly at the speed of light.
Requirements in favor:
The beam behaves in a reasonably realistic way, such as reflecting off non-magical mirrors or refracting and diffusing through liquids and materials.
According to reliable sources, the beam travels at the speed of light.
According to reliable sources, the beam is composed of photons or light itself.
The light beam originates from a real light source, such as the Sun or a camera flash.
Requirements against:
The beam is observed to travel at different speeds within the same material.
The beam bends when passing through air or otherwise does not travel in a straight line (with the exception of realistic refraction or deflection).
The beam causes damage primarily through means other than heating the materials that absorb it.
A laser can cause explosions, but only if it rapidly vaporizes matter, meaning the target must be partially destroyed in the process.
The beam is tangible, and humans can physically interact with it as if it were a solid, liquid, or gas. It shouldn't scatter upon impact, like a substance, nor should it be redirectable without a mechanism such as refraction.
While in theory a laser can push things, either through radiation pressure or by causing explosions by vaporizing part of an object, these are very specific circumstances, and generally, a laser shouldn't push things like a physical projectile.
Now, within the story, we have the following information:
Here you will find all the scans related to the light of Kanaguri
Kanaguri states that his attack isn't a laser, but rather natural, 100% real light.
This light can travel in a straight line.
This light can reflect off natural objects like iron.
This attack is composed purely of technology and ordinary materials, making it seem natural. Light can cause vaporization, which is evident when observing Sakamoto's body after the light attack.
And finally, what I believe should confirm everything, is that the light attack originates directly from his camera, making it a 100% realistic source within the accepted terms of VSBW.
I don't see any antifeat within the verse that contradicts the fact that this laser isn't light-speed, and it also meets six characteristics of real light beams.
Would this be consistent?
It should be. In the past (chronologically speaking), light has been perfectly portrayed as being able to travel at the speed of light. That is, the very logic of the universe acknowledges that light moves at the speed of light.
Now, could Sakamoto actually react to this light?
One panel before the light bounces, we see the short distance between Sakamoto and Kanaguri, and the latter is about to attack him with this same attack. The only way Sakamoto could avoid the attack at that short distance (seeing as he was surprised by how close it was) is if he reacted to the light the instant it appeared.
This should at least give FTL to the top tiers of the universe, as I mentioned before, which would be Sakamoto, Takamura, Uzuki with Takamura's personality, among others.
3: Shin.
Something I realized is that Shin can use those electromagnetic waves in his own brain to increase his speed. What does that mean? By using his maximum speed with this ability, he is so fast that he can perceive the distortion of space generated by moving objects. Also, being powered by electromagnetic waves, its perception, reaction and combat should reach the speed of light.
I would like to know your opinion on the arguments, what things are in favor of being accepted and what things are not, and why.
First, to make things as easy as possible, Shin should get the following Hax: Limited Mind Manipulation and Self-Mind Manipulation, Body Puppetry and Self-Body Puppetry, probably Limited Radiation Manipulation, Statistics Amplification and Enhanced Senses.
.Through thought rewriting, he sends electrical signals/electromagnetic waves to the basal ganglia of the enemy's brain, hijacking and controlling the target's mind and body for a fraction of a second. He can send these same electrical signals to his own brain to force his own movements even if he's in pain, and he can use it an unlimited number of times on himself, such as being able to move despite having a serious injury. By using his maximum power over himself, he can perceive his surroundings in slow motion, even managing to see an arrow grazing the air and space.
Shin's profile should be updated to at least hypersonic, or massively hypersonic, speed, and with increased perception speed with thought rewriting.
And perhaps the speed of light should be added as an attack speed through this ability as well, due to the speed of electromagnetic waves.
Sakamoto could get Multiple Selves denial or something like that.
Characters like Shishiba, possibly Osaragi, Nagumo, Uzuki, Sakamoto, and Takamura should be upgraded from hypersonic to massively hypersonic, or massively hypersonic+, since most of the aforementioned characters are superior to Shishiba, who can, with some effort, block and defend against Gozu's electric and rapid attacks.
Gozu mentions that he can move at the speed of lightning.
This statement is consistent, Because Gozu can manipulate and absorb natural energy and electricity to power himself up, Along with its strength and speed, it can also absorb the electricity of a large part of a city, this electricity being natural and giving meaning to its lightning speed.
According to what I saw with some friends, Gozu's feat of absorbing energy from a large part of Tokyo and several other areas should be around the Large Building or MCB level, which, if true, would improve the top tiers and not just Takamura at that level.
And one more thing I'd like to touch on is the LS (light speed) and FTL levels of the verse, since I've been analyzing it a bit.
For this analysis, I'll use two things to make this consistent, or at least so I can use it for the God Tier levels of the verse.
1: Kindaka.
Here are the scans about Kindaka's speed
Kindaka, from his first appearance, is declared to be the fastest assassin alive at that time, and also to this day. His speed is so great that he can even move at the speed of light.
Something worth highlighting is that Kindaka isn't fast because of his "light speed boots," but rather that he is the one who moves at the speed of light or even faster.
This mention of light speed remains consistent and is reaffirmed in his databook, mentioning that even after awakening, he reaches the speed of light, so the work maintains consistency in this reference.
Another remarkable feat within the story is that, after awakening, he confronts the Sakamoto family, where he faces Shin.
In a desperate moment, Shin decides to use his thought rewriting ability to stop him, sending out electromagnetic waves to gain the upper hand in the fight. However, Kindaka manages to sense this wave and dodges it, moving faster than the speed of light. Kindaka himself states that he felt something approaching and decided to dodge it, confirming that he was able to move at the speed of light or even faster for this feat.
The databook further validates this feat, as its mention of light speed includes a panel from the same chapter where he dodges this attack, thus establishing the coherence of light speed within the story.
A friend also calculated this, giving it a relativistic+ speed rating.
Now, who would scale up to this speed?
The only characters who should scale from this feat and character should be Skinny Sakamoto/Prime Sakamoto, Takamura, Uzuki in Takamura mode, and I think no one else (or maybe I'm forgetting someone).
I state that Sakamoto scales from this because it's acknowledged in his own profile that when Sakamoto was a student he was able to adapt to Kindaka's speed, so I suppose it's fine to use this to scale Sakamoto.
Here is Sakamoto's official profile if you want to see it, where it was acknowledged that he adapted to Kindaka's speed
2:FTL via Kanaguri.
This topic has been covered before, but I will revisit it, using the necessary requirements for light, within fiction, to be considered truly at the speed of light.
Requirements in favor:
The beam behaves in a reasonably realistic way, such as reflecting off non-magical mirrors or refracting and diffusing through liquids and materials.
According to reliable sources, the beam travels at the speed of light.
According to reliable sources, the beam is composed of photons or light itself.
The light beam originates from a real light source, such as the Sun or a camera flash.
Requirements against:
The beam is observed to travel at different speeds within the same material.
The beam bends when passing through air or otherwise does not travel in a straight line (with the exception of realistic refraction or deflection).
The beam causes damage primarily through means other than heating the materials that absorb it.
A laser can cause explosions, but only if it rapidly vaporizes matter, meaning the target must be partially destroyed in the process.
The beam is tangible, and humans can physically interact with it as if it were a solid, liquid, or gas. It shouldn't scatter upon impact, like a substance, nor should it be redirectable without a mechanism such as refraction.
While in theory a laser can push things, either through radiation pressure or by causing explosions by vaporizing part of an object, these are very specific circumstances, and generally, a laser shouldn't push things like a physical projectile.
Now, within the story, we have the following information:
Here you will find all the scans related to the light of Kanaguri
Kanaguri states that his attack isn't a laser, but rather natural, 100% real light.
This light can travel in a straight line.
This light can reflect off natural objects like iron.
This attack is composed purely of technology and ordinary materials, making it seem natural. Light can cause vaporization, which is evident when observing Sakamoto's body after the light attack.
And finally, what I believe should confirm everything, is that the light attack originates directly from his camera, making it a 100% realistic source within the accepted terms of VSBW.
I don't see any antifeat within the verse that contradicts the fact that this laser isn't light-speed, and it also meets six characteristics of real light beams.
Would this be consistent?
It should be. In the past (chronologically speaking), light has been perfectly portrayed as being able to travel at the speed of light. That is, the very logic of the universe acknowledges that light moves at the speed of light.
Now, could Sakamoto actually react to this light?
One panel before the light bounces, we see the short distance between Sakamoto and Kanaguri, and the latter is about to attack him with this same attack. The only way Sakamoto could avoid the attack at that short distance (seeing as he was surprised by how close it was) is if he reacted to the light the instant it appeared.
This should at least give FTL to the top tiers of the universe, as I mentioned before, which would be Sakamoto, Takamura, Uzuki with Takamura's personality, among others.
3: Shin.
Something I realized is that Shin can use those electromagnetic waves in his own brain to increase his speed. What does that mean? By using his maximum speed with this ability, he is so fast that he can perceive the distortion of space generated by moving objects. Also, being powered by electromagnetic waves, its perception, reaction and combat should reach the speed of light.
I would like to know your opinion on the arguments, what things are in favor of being accepted and what things are not, and why.
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, I barely know anyone here haha
