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Saitama vs Turles (Pre-Tree of Life)

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Mico09 said:
Turles because he's a martial artist and is more Planet level than Saitama.
I for one go with saitama on this one. Saitama may not be the sharpest tool in the block, not a martial artist, but he doesn't really have a big as a weakness as Turles. As soon as Saitama gets a good hold of it and yanks it off, Turles's power drops faster than Genos.

Saitama 6/10
 
Turtles nappa showed that can be evaded. Turtles can also create a moon and transform to a great ape then its gg for Saitama,
 
Keep in mind, Turles's Scouter reported that Goku had a power level of 30,000, and he fought pretty evenly with Goku until he ate the Tree of Might fruit. And like Huesito88 said, Turles can just use the Moon Ball to transform into an Oozaru, and with power scaling that puts his Oozaru form at a power level of 300,000, more or less. I say Turles would win it.
 
Turles. His great ape form would be more than enough for Saitama as it stands. Not that I think he needs to do that to win.
 
I love how its always assumed that every random saiyan can just 'go great ape' and win any fight, despite even vegeta getting his tail cut off by fodder yajirobe.
 
Because it was shown that Turles both has his tail and knows the Moon Ball technique. And as for Vegeta, he was not paying attention and he did not even know about Yajirobe. By that logic, you could determine the outcome for any debate regarding a DBZ character with a simple, "They were caught off-guard, they lose," and it would be just as valid. And like I said, in the Oozaru form Turles would at least have a power level of 300,000. That's stronger than Captain Ginyu. Furthermore, since Saitama doesn't know that a Saiyan's tail is his weakness, he couldn't just cut off his tail and change him back into his normal form.
 
It is 100% in saitama's character to at least try to grab the tail and spin him around or something, even if he doesn't know it's a weakness. Anyway this isn't an arguement about the battle, just an observation about the 'great ape' argument I see all the time.
 
Ah, okay. Still, is it shown his tail is his weakness? It's been a long time since I watched Tree of Might, but I can't recall whether or not Turles's tail was grabbed... so it's unknown whether or not he trained that weakness away, at least as far as I can remember.
 
Giving this to Turles since he was stronger than saiyan saga vegeta and maybe namek saga, he was able to keep up with Goku who was stated to have a power lvl of 30,000 and if Turles uses his Kill Driver Which can most likely kill an Oozaru it would probably due some damage. with the tree of might i think Turles still wins now that his power lvl should be close to around first form frieza
 
Turles in his base = Mid - Low Difficulty

Turles with Great Ape Form = Stomp (Low Difficulty)

Didn't saiyan saga Goku beat Saitama which is weaker than Turles even before eating his fruit?

Power levels to compare: Kioken x3 Saiyan Saga Goku (24,000) He defeated Saitama already check his losses)

Turles pre fruit (30,000) fought evenly with Goku which was after the saiyan saga (even tho it's from another timeline)
 
For the guys that try to argue thst turles can't go great ape, he can since he did make a moon with little to no effort, and saitama has no knowledge of the tail being his weakness.
 
Turles takes this for alot of reasons.

1) He has flight as an advantage and he is faster than Saitama not by much though.

2) He has energy blast which gives the the range advantage as well.

3)Oozaru transformation.
 
Actually the 30,000 rating for Goku was only the initial reading. After that reading Turles states his power level is "Sky rocketing". Base gohan was rated to be 10,000. That'd put his Oozaru form at 100,000 and Turles almost One-shot him.
 
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