Garou exceeds the skill of his opponents when he copies their moves. Experience is linked with the amount of skill someone has in their technique.
Not really? Experience and intelligence/skill decides many things. Knowing which technique you should use for each scenario, how to time it, and how effectively you can pull it off are all things that are completely based on the users IQ/BIQ, skill, experience, and info analysis. Simply copying the technique itself doesn't grant any of these.
For example, going to chess as you brought up.
Skill in Chess is gained through experience playing the game. If you copied someone's skill in chess, what you are really copying in the amalgamation of everything they've learned through their experiences.
No, that's not even remotely true. If I see Magnus win 1 game and I perfectly copy the moves he made in that game, it won't allow me to play at his level against a different opponent who makes completely different moves. Yeah maybe if the exact same situation as the one I copied appears in a game I'm playing, I will be able to replicate Magnus' moves effectively. But if literally ANYTHING is different by even a single tile, I'll be forced to use my own skill to decide.
Because I already gave the reasoning above.
If you were to perfectly copy Magnus' entire technique and his skill in Chess then you would draw with him.
No? Magnus' intelligence and experience would allow him to adapt to my copy which would create a scenario I'm my ready for and Magnus would completely steam roll me.
And again, Garou exceeds the skill of his opponent in the technique he copies.
And he doesn't steal their experience, BIQ, or general intelligence.
Garou considers it the absolute pinnacle of his martial arts techniques and wasn't able to master it even with god-given knowledge combined with his own martial arts knowledge.
Cool? And Mori straight up achieved a whole new concept. Moris moves aren't perfect in the sense that he just thinks they're perfect. They're perfect in the same sense that grass is green and water is wet.
It isn't even about this being martial arts. It's about the scope of what Saitama can copy. If he can copy someone's movements down to the macro quantum level then it is clearly superior to everything you provided for Mori Jin so far. You mentioned physically impossible martial arts. This is WAY beyond just that.
No? What makes replicating something difficult is rarely ever just the size of the movement. It's mostly the complexity.
All Saitama did was send his particles in 1 direction and his anti particles in the opposite direction. That doesn't require precision as long as you're capable of moving those particles, and it's not mentally tasking (complex) since it's literally just like spinning one hand in 1 direction and the other hand in a different direction for a normal human. The only thing that portrays this as difficult is that Garou couldn't master it, but even that only puts it at the same level of difficulty as a single basic kick from Mori since Dean also couldn't master than.
It has been agreed upon by multiple administrators including Ultima that it is a good enough statement to a verifiable 4-D existence. It isn't just me saying it.
It really isn't tho. Even if it was (which again, according to the wiki standards isn't and 4D Mori was repeatedly rejected based on that), it would only make Gods dimension 4D, not God himself.
Again, skill and experience are linked. If you can purposefully copy someone's skills, you gain the intricacies they learned through experience regardless.
And again, no matter how much you try to twist it, copying a skill won't give you someone's experience. Yeah SOME experience is obviously imprinted on the move in the sense that, If you gain an experience that makes you perform the technique differently that experience is technically imprinted on it in a certain way.
But that is not even remotely what I'm saying here. The relevant experience would be something like blocking a high kick and realizing "wow this hurts, I shouldn't do this, instead I should use a different block or dodge".
Actual experiences like these allow you to use the correct techniques in the correct situations with the correct timing while also allowing you to predict your opponents moves better. Again Garou or Saitama or whoever can copy all the 50 different kicks that Mori has. But when it comes to actually attacking the opponent in specific situations, it's completely up to them to pick which kick is the correct one to use.
Are you going to add my vote btw
Oh I didn't realize that you were voting for Saitama, I'll count your vote then (I might have missed it, in that case that's on me sorry). Iirc you kinda conceded to most of my main arguments via BOR and I thought you just wanted to discuss the less relevant stuff. Like we are debating Saitama copying Ogres skill when Saitama doesn't have the weapons Ogre uses 100% of the time she fights
