It's a feat of copying. Which is relevant here regardless of whether or not you want to consider it "martial arts." That's not really what I'm debating. I'm saying that If Saitama can perfectly replicate Ogre's techniques and styles then there is no skill difference.
And we're saying that Mori already perfectly replicated them and it didn't do shit to Ogre.
Again, misuse of the word "perfect" + Saitama's mimicry far surpasses his by an infinite degree.
No? Copying moves doesn't copy experience and actual skill at utilizing those moves. What it is is a feat for Ogres skill and experience.
No...
That's not necessarily 4D. Mori was also called a being in a higher dimension...
Scans? All I remember is about his power.
No he didn't. Statements about perfecting skills are thrown around when it's not actually true all the time even in GoH. But in this case it's so literal it breaks physics. Achieving recoiless on a technique means you completely focus all of your energy into a single point without losing any energy in the process without doing any unnecessary micro movements. Mori using recoiless equates to him using a 250,000x multiplier.
It's a perfect copy, you're just confusing techniques and skill/BIQ/experience.
Garou doesn't gain the opponents intelligence and experience lol. And that's the man factor here. Ogre is an over 5 billion year old ancient entity who almost singlehandedly fought a war against a race of gods that whooped Mori in the past and would have won if she didn't get betrayed.
Okay so
It is relevant because having the ability to copy hax does not mean you somehow magically gain the skill, intelligence, and experience of the opponent.
Garou exceeds the skill of his opponents when he copies their moves. Experience is linked with the amount of skill someone has in their technique.
No reasoning.
If you were to perfectly copy Magnus' entire technique and his skill in Chess then you would draw with him.
Garou considers it the absolute pinnacle of his martial arts techniques and wasn't able to master it even with god-given knowledge combined with his own martial arts knowledge.
It has been agreed upon by multiple administrators including Ultima that it is a good enough statement to a verifiable 4-D existence. It isn't just me saying it.
Again, skill and experience are linked. If you can purposefully copy someone's skills, you gain the intricacies they learned through experience regardless.
This isn't true. The Daewi skill debate was inconclusive between me and Azontr and I forgot what happened with the Mira one pretty sure that just died.
Not really? Experience and intelligence/skill decides many things. Knowing which technique you should use for each scenario, how to time it, and how effectively you can pull it off are all things that are completely based on the users IQ/BIQ, skill, experience, and info analysis. Simply copying the technique itself doesn't grant any of these.
No, that's not even remotely true. If I see Magnus win 1 game and I perfectly copy the moves he made in that game, it won't allow me to play at his level against a different opponent who makes completely different moves. Yeah maybe if the exact same situation as the one I copied appears in a game I'm playing, I will be able to replicate Magnus' moves effectively. But if literally ANYTHING is different by even a single tile, I'll be forced to use my own skill to decide.
Because I already gave the reasoning above.
No? Magnus' intelligence and experience would allow him to adapt to my copy which would create a scenario I'm my ready for and Magnus would completely steam roll me.
And he doesn't steal their experience, BIQ, or general intelligence.
Cool? And Mori straight up achieved a whole new concept. Moris moves aren't perfect in the sense that he just thinks they're perfect. They're perfect in the same sense that grass is green and water is wet.
No? What makes replicating something difficult is rarely ever just the size of the movement. It's mostly the complexity.
It really isn't tho. Even if it was (which again, according to the wiki standards isn't and 4D Mori was repeatedly rejected based on that), it would only make Gods dimension 4D, not God himself.
And again, no matter how much you try to twist it, copying a skill won't give you someone's experience. Yeah SOME experience is obviously imprinted on the move in the sense that, If you gain an experience that makes you perform the technique differently that experience is technically imprinted on it in a certain way.
Oh I didn't realize that you were voting for Saitama, I'll count your vote then (I might have missed it, in that case that's on me sorry). Iirc you kinda conceded to most of my main arguments via BOR and I thought you just wanted to discuss the less relevant stuff. Like we are debating Saitama copying Ogres skill when Saitama doesn't have the weapons Ogre uses 100% of the time she fights
You'd fold and cream your pants the moment you would see Ogre
You'd fold and cream your pants the moment you would see Ogre
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I already did. They're yet to add it but the request is up
