Sailor Moon vs Timmy Turner (Sailor Moon vs The Fairly Oddparents!)

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Usagi thinks Timmy is going to destroy the Universe and is going to kill him

Timmy's Profile

Sailor's Profile

Incon: 6

Rules

Low 2-C Sailor Moon vs 3-A Timmy (Fairy Versery Gifts and has fairy magic Turbo timmy) "I'll never bow down to you, Usagi! I don't care how powerful you are, you're still a second-rate eighth grade student. And sweet foods reek!"

(timmy has average intelligence normal timmy)

(same with moon. they both have average intelligence)

Both Have Knowledge of each other

Battle takes place in outer space

Speed equalized

They are 15ft apart

edit: due to fairy Versery Gifts and has fairy magic not win con.

this match will use Turbo timmy

Timmy is also allowed to have all of his optional equipment provided that it has been used in his magic key

 

[Eficiente]

Timmy could potentially start by wishing himself and his fairies to be in an anti-magic bubble, as well as try to depower, erase her memory, or turn her into something harmless. What can Sailor Moon do with knowledge?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Following this for interest.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Timmy could potentially start by wishing himself and his fairies to be in an anti-magic bubble, as well as try to depower, erase her memory, or turn her into something harmless. What can Sailor Moon do with knowledge?

if things get really hairy eficiente.

maybe timmy's conceptual manipulation could help. (can that bypass regen and immortality type types 4 and 8?) cause sailor moon needs her crystal thing.

maybe timmy can say. i wish usagi could no longer have immortality type 8.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Eternal Form Sailor Moon (aka Low 2-C version) does not have High-Godly.

 

[Board3659]

ok so what can sailor moon do?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

ok so what can sailor moon do?

for those not bothering to read link, including you

Spoiler: Base Sailor

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, True Flight, High-level Magic, Continuous beam barrage, Purification powers, Healing (the light of the Silver Crystal heal diseases, injuries and restore life force), Transformation (Spell Negation, can also reverse spells with the henshin), Shapeshifting (She can become anyone with the disguise pen), Immortality (Type 4 & 8; as long as her Sailor Crystal is not destroyed or altered, she always returns to life), Reincarnation (She can also be revitalized if killed), Lunar Manipulation, Sound Manipulation (when she cries, she emits ultrasounds that can break glasses and destroy concrete), Transmutation (With her tiara, she can transmute everything that comes into contact with it, turning it into dust), Spatial Destruction (Her attacks have threatened to destroy and collapse an entire pocket dimension), Can attack the astral plane, Light Manipulation (Her manipulation of light has many variants but most of them can immobilize the enemies and burn them), Forcefield Creation (Sailor Moon can create a barrier around her or other people), Enhanced Senses (She can sense danger and her equipment warns her), Can survive in outer space, Teleportation (Via Sailor Teleportation, not applicable in fight situations), Non-Physical Interaction (She can affect Incorporeality beings like shadows and intangible souls), Creation (Can create weapons such as thorns, a sword, a katana, and a machine gun), Sealing with the Silver Crystal's sealing (The Silver Crystal's power is able to seal Queen Metalia, it's stated that this seal banish people from existence), Resistance to Mind Control (She is not affected by Mamoru's mind control, and was not affected by Queen Metalia who manipulated an entire planet with her presence), Ice (Kunzite froze Tokyo with the same temperature as the north pole, but Sailor Moon's spell nullified that), Absorption (She was being engulfed by Queen Metalia but the Silver Crystal protected her), and Status Effect Inducement (If somebody is absorbed by Queen Metalia their vision disappears, but Sailor Moon wasn't affected at all)

Spoiler: With planet power

All from previous, Auto-Shield (The Silver Crystal can protect her from imminent danger), Teleportation (After regaining her power, she can teleport herself)

Spoiler: Cosmic power

The same but much stronger, Energy Manipulation (Sailor Moon is able to manipulate various powers, even the powers of the people around her), Teleportation (Can teleport others to her location), Limited psychic powers: Telepathy, Telekinesis, and Psychometry, Extrasensory Perception (When she touches a surface, she can observe all that is related to this surface, when she touched the ground of Nemesis, she was able to find the Senshi that were deep inside of the planet), Reactive Power Level (She can increase her level of power drastically during a fight, at the beginning of a fight, she was easily surpassed by the Death Phantom and after a few moments, she became strong enough to easily repel it), Reality Manipulation (She is able to modify reality, she was able to completely wipe out Nemesis's avatar, his own dimension at the end of space time, restore the destroyed space time and got back her friends on Earth), Soul Manipulation and Existence Erasure (She can attack the astral, spiritual, and mental planes at the same time, she erased Death Phantom, a mere "will" alongside his physical body, Nemesis), Statistics Amplification (Can channel power from her future self), Power Nullification (Sailor Moon's main power negates the opponent's attacks and energy and passes through defenses and barriers,. She especially Nullified Metalia's Power Absorption, Wiseman's Existence Erasure, Space Time Destruction, BFR and Higher-Dimensional Manipulation, Nemesis's Black Hole abilities, Void Manipulation, Absorption and even his Power Nullification, which is supposed to nullify all forms of power), Durability Negation, Resistance to Radiation Manipulation (Can easily exist in Nemesis, who emitted a large amount of x-rays), Space-Time Warping (Death Phantom warped space and time and tried to erase Sailor Moon 3000 years in the past, but she resisted it), Power Nullification (With the use of the Silver Crystal, Usagi managed to resist and ignore the effects of the Black Crystal, which cancels out any kind of energy), Time Stop (The Scepter of Usagi can cancel time stops, and the Silver Crystal does not seem to be affected by them), Death Manipulation (She is not affected by the fog of the Malefic Black Crystal which kills immediately and after some time, causes others to vanish completely), Gravity Manipulation (Can exist on a planet that absorbs matter and light), Existence Erasure (She constantly resisted to being erased from existence by Nemesis' energy and the Black Crystal), Matter Manipulation (Can resist paralysis and atomic destruction; Chiral and Achiral paralyzed Usagi at the atomic level but she could move (with difficulty), and resisted complete atomic destruction) and Life and Power absorption (Her power and Life force can't be absorbed by Metalia and Nemesis, he is described to completely ignore the Black Crystal's absorption)

Spoiler: Holy power

All from previous, Regeneration (Likely Mid; Sailor Senshi possess the light of the planet protectors, which grants them regeneration), Resistance to Soul Manipulation (Sailor Moon resisted inside of Pharaoh 90, which stole the souls of everybody on the entire planet and turned them into vessels for itself), Madness Manipulation (Sailor Moon isn't affected at all by the hail of Cyprine-Ptitol's witchcraft which made the whole city go mad), Empathic Manipulation (Cyprine's magic magnifies the darkness and evil intentions in the "heart" of people, and she managed to manipulate all 7 Sailor Senshi despite their resistance, but sailor moon was not affected by this magic. She has also cancelled the magic for all Senshi with her Super Sailor transformation), Illusion Creation (Constantly nullified and destroyed illusions of Death Buster's enemies for her and everyone. She also destroyed an entire black world illusion), Transmutation (Pharaoh 90's Body converted everything on the planet into darkness, even energy and power itself. She can exist and use her power inside of his body)

Spoiler: Crisis power

All from previous, Can teleport into the Dream Kingdom of Elysion, Resistance to Fate Manipulation, Curse Manipulation and Mind Manipulation

and finally

Spoiler: Eternal Power

All from previous, Immortality (Type 1, 4 & 8), Void Manipulation (She has inherited the power of the Cauldron, which can erase anything it touches from existence, even Sailor Crystals. Her ultimate power can destroy Chaos, a Nonexistent entity and the entire Cauldron, a four dimensional structure linked to other part of the space-time continuum, even outside it at the point where the cauldron need to come back into existence), Can teleport other beings to her, Can transmute other beings remotely, Aura, Resistance to Soul Manipulation and Memory Manipulation (Sailor Lethe eroded her memories and her identity but she managed to gain them back)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

i can always change the distance if needed to make the fight fair. (if 100ft is too short or too long)

 

[Board3659]

so can auto shield protect from timmys wishes (also what power is she)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

so can auto shield protect from timmys wishes (also what power is she)

what exactly do you mean?

 

[Board3659]

what exactly do you mean?

first of all are we using base sailor moon? second, if not can she use auto shield to protect from timmys wishes (IDK if that will help anyway but just a suggestion)

 

[Eficiente]

Well, depower her doesn't seem to work, but erase her memory (or mess with her mind in other ways) and turn her into something else would work as magic has shown those powers on a better scale. It's not that depower someone would be the most likely thing Timmy would do, but would his "knowledge" here mean he knows he shouldn't do that? And for Sailor Moon how smart would she be with this info; would she instantly know she needs to hax her foes from afar before they may do the same?

As pointed before with the anti-magic bubble example, Timmy w/o being at his best intelligence has shown to be cautious about rivals with magic/who could do anything, and aiming to kill is a freedom he has little times been allowed before, so I find very likely that he would start by wishing to hax his foe here due to knowing how dangerous she is, but what he would wish is more or less up interpretable.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Bump

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

first of all are we using base sailor moon? second, if not can she use auto shield to protect from timmys wishes (IDK if that will help anyway but just a suggestion)

we're using eternal power. which combines all the previous powers she has.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Average; High school girl level, she is around an average teenage girl and was shown to be an academic underachiever[19], as well as terrible with technology[20], although the school she goes to is a very difficult school

that's how intelligent she is.

(however if we give her lambda power She has Super-Intelligence with the Lambda Power due to the Mercury Crystal as well as a degree of Cosmic Awareness)

so it's best to make them both have their normal intelligence

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

bump

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Well, Sailor Moon's power isn't only magic based, it's cosmic power too, so the anti-magic shields may not be his ace in the hole. The memory wipe won't work as in this form Sailor Moon regained her memory from total memory and mind wipe on her own, while depowered.

I think the best way for Timmy to win this is to turn Sailor Moon into something, but she is resistant to transmutation, matter manipulation, and can reality warp as well as resistent to existence erasure. (also isn't there a rule that fairy magic doesn't work on super objects?, maybe that's a PIS and not applicable in this fight).

But I believe this draws out to who strikes first, but Sailor Moon can put timmy down with her basic attacks and has auto shields where as timmy has to transform her into something specific. "I wish she was a normal school girl" (mind you she resists power negation and can reactivate her power and recreate her crystal) but is he going to lead with something like that?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Well, Sailor Moon's power isn't only magic based, it's cosmic power too, so the anti-magic shields may not be his ace in the hole. The memory wipe won't work as in this form Sailor Moon regained her memory from total memory and mind wipe on her own, while depowered.

I think the best way for Timmy to win this is to turn Sailor Moon into something, but she is resistant to transmutation, matter manipulation, and can reality warp as well as resistent to existence erasure. (also isn't there a rule that fairy magic doesn't work on super objects?, maybe that's a PIS and not applicable in this fight).

But I believe this draws out to who strikes first, but Sailor Moon can put timmy down with her basic attacks and has auto shields where as timmy has to transform her into something specific. "I wish she was a normal school girl" (mind you she resists power negation and can reactivate her power and recreate her crystal) but is he going to lead with something like that?

He has conceptual manipulation (Type 2. Wished for a day to not exist. Scales to Tom Sawyer)

but yes he leads with that.

Almost always tries to solve problems in one wish upon noticing them, which is usually made impossible by reasons that may or may not actually make sense. His most common wish is to make everything back to normal, which applies to situations he didn't make and can wipe the memory of others without Timmy including that in the wish. BFR is also something common for him but this is mostly due to his enemies not belonging in the place in which they are. Timmy doesn't have a leading move aside from calling his Fairies when they aren't with him but has done things like making targets to not have powers anymore, incapacitate them and wished them gone rather often. When limited to items, Timmy makes repeated use of things he wished for fun (Re-Do Watch, Magic TV Remotes, You Doo dolls, and Body-swapping Joy Buzzer) and doesn't really use things he had for utility (Shrinky Suit, Time Scooter, and items without notable powers).

so he could literally wish that she was normal or based since he has knowledge on her (and more sensible would use conceptual manipulation)

also

Resistance to the powers Magic has in the verse (basically any superpower used by magic aka power nullification, Existence erasure via magic, and other powers granted by magic)

however void manipulation is one of the powers that timmy has not used nor is it in his Powers and abilities section of base version and via magic) so void manipulation is not in his P&A

so sailor moon can use void manipulation to kill him.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

however timmy still has that conceptual manipulation.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

anyway i fixed the range between them. (15ft because void manipulation requires touch in order to work)

still timmy has quite a bit of hax like causality manipulation and stuff. (though due to the fact we are giving his base intelligence he's average and i'm not sure how that will turn out)

still he is knowledgeable of her and would probably due find a way to save himself the best way possible

 

[Bernkastelll]

The Conceptual Manipulation seems dangerous~

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

The Conceptual Manipulation seems dangerous~

same with the void manipulation for sailor moon

 

[Lightbuster30]

How is an anti-magic bubble going to nullify magic uncountably infinitely stronger than anything it's ever negated?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

How is an anti-magic bubble going to nullify magic uncountably infinitely stronger than anything it's ever negated?

I can't answer your question on that because i'm not an expert here.

but timmy still has hax on his page that usagi has no counter to like conceptual manipulation, causality manipulation, fear manipulation, subjective reality, Attack Reflection, probability manipulation, disease manipulation, and physics manipulation.

it just depends if he's smart enough to do it with the knowledge he's given. (he's average normally just like usagi when it comes to intelligence)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

oh and he can time travel as well. as well as sleep inducement and dream manipulation.

but again it just depends on how smart an average person is because normally he is an average intelligent person

 

[Lightbuster30]

but timmy still has hax on his page that usagi has no counter to like conceptual manipulation, causality manipulation, fear manipulation, subjective reality, Attack Reflection, probability manipulation, disease manipulation, and physics manipulation.

I know he has more than that one ability. It's just one specific thing I took issue with and felt like voicing it.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I know he has more than that one ability. It's just one specific thing I took issue with and felt like voicing it.

yeah it just depends if he's quick enough to do these things. here's how he uses magic



His fairies grant him his wishes, primarily by a voice command from Timmy expressing to wish what he wants, but he doesn't need to say "wish" in the sentence, can command vague sentences or do simple gestures and the fairies can understand by context, or alternatively act on their own at Timmy's benefit, even without Timmy doing anything. His fairies can also unwish or remove his wishes without Timmy wishing for it, not grant him his wish when feeling it is convenient to do so, deal with enemies by themselves, and return to Timmy when separated. Certain items can allow Timmy to use Fairy Magic




it's just can he do it quickly before usagi uses void manipulation on him.

 

[Board3659]

yeah it just depends if he's quick enough to do these things. here's how he uses magic



His fairies grant him his wishes, primarily by a voice command from Timmy expressing to wish what he wants, but he doesn't need to say "wish" in the sentence, can command vague sentences or do simple gestures and the fairies can understand by context, or alternatively act on their own at Timmy's benefit, even without Timmy doing anything. His fairies can also unwish or remove his wishes without Timmy wishing for it, not grant him his wish when feeling it is convenient to do so, deal with enemies by themselves, and return to Timmy when separated. Certain items can allow Timmy to use Fairy Magic




it's just can he do it quickly before usagi uses void manipulation on him.

um for now I vote incon though I probably will change my mind

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I'll go Incon for now as well.

 

[Eficiente]

Well, Sailor Moon's power isn't only magic based, it's cosmic power too, so the anti-magic shields may not be his ace in the hole.

Noted. Then again, he did so once in the series, so it should be noted more so as a feat of him being careful and making a competent read.

The memory wipe won't work as in this form Sailor Moon regained her memory from total memory and mind wipe on her own, while depowered.

Well, this may be true and while may not be true, as when something is aimed with magic (say, make Bs be As) it sometimes keeps happening after the current targets are affected (all Bs were turned into As, but a new B came along; it turns into an A. Or if an A turns back into a B on its own, it turns back into a A due to the use of magic). The more often example of this is when something wished is granted too literal (Timmy asked for parents who care less, and got fairy godparents who care less too, wished for his friend to be the best baseball player, and it stopped being so when he stopped being his friend), but there are also cases like when he wished everything in Halloween to be real, which applied to what everyone had as a costume even after his fairies were turned into humans, or when he wished to be the strongest in a beach, which did so and then kept doing so after stronger beings came to the beach.

But if Timmy knows she can regain her memories then he can specify his wish to add in that "insistence" of magic to apply its effects.

I think the best way for Timmy to win this is to turn Sailor Moon into something, but she is resistant to transmutation, matter manipulation, and can reality warp as well as resistent to existence erasure. (also isn't there a rule that fairy magic doesn't work on super objects?, maybe that's a PIS and not applicable in this fight).

As said before, the scale of it is higher than what she can resist. All the PIS and not applicable stuff are being listed in a blog linked in the verse page.

But I believe this draws out to who strikes first, but Sailor Moon can put timmy down with her basic attacks and has auto shields where as timmy has to transform her into something specific. "I wish she was a normal school girl" (mind you she resists power negation and can reactivate her power and recreate her crystal) but is he going to lead with something like that?

She can put him down with blows, yes. It really depends on what powers are being used, Power Null by overpowering her wouldn't work, nor as in hax (Based on her resistance), transmutation or bio manip would. After and if he has something land he can wish for her crystal to stop doing what it does just as vaguely as that or in some specific way, if done the former then magic can look what it needs to do on its own.

still timmy has quite a bit of hax like causality manipulation and stuff. (though due to the fact we are giving his base intelligence he's average and i'm not sure how that will turn out)

Causality Manip is more so used for fun and to fix things, not as a means to attack others. Timmy having his average intelligence may change things here, you should add that in the OP. SBA otherwise mean that the characters are at their best, which in Timmy's case means his best intelligence on his own.

How is an anti-magic bubble going to nullify magic uncountably infinitely stronger than anything it's ever negated?

The anti-magic wouldn't do anything against Low 2-C attacks, just against powers that don't have a tier, just scale. Please read the Hax and Resistance pages.

I can't answer your question on that because i'm not an expert here.

but timmy still has hax on his page that usagi has no counter to like conceptual manipulation, causality manipulation, fear manipulation, subjective reality, Attack Reflection, probability manipulation, disease manipulation, and physics manipulation.

it just depends if he's smart enough to do it with the knowledge he's given. (he's average normally just like usagi when it comes to intelligence)

Having a lot of hax isn't the same as being likely to use a much of them. Conceptual would most likely be the result of wishing something vague and needing to happen for the wish to work. Causality Manip I already went over above, Fear was used once and to scare away some people over some minutes. Subjective Reality would be pretty pointless. Attack Reflection has no reason to work on the scale of her attacks. Probability Manip was only used for fun once. Disease Manip can happen but it's super unlikely due to how little times it was used. Physics was never used to attack anyone.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Noted. Then again, he did so once in the series, so it should be noted more so as a feat of him being careful and making a competent read.

Well, this may be true and while may not be true, as when something is aimed with magic (say, make Bs be As) it sometimes keeps happening after the current targets are affected (all Bs were turned into As, but a new B came along; it turns into an A. Or if an A turns back into a B on its own, it turns back into a A due to the use of magic). The more often example of this is when something wished is granted too literal (Timmy asked for parents who care less, and got fairy godparents who care less too, wished for his friend to be the best baseball player, and it stopped being so when he stopped being his friend), but there are also cases like when he wished everything in Halloween to be real, which applied to what everyone had as a costume even after his fairies were turned into humans, or when he wished to be the strongest in a beach, which did so and then kept doing so after stronger beings came to the beach.

But if Timmy knows she can regain her memories then he can specify his wish to add in that "insistence" of magic to apply its effects.

As said before, the scale of it is higher than what she can resist. All the PIS and not applicable stuff are being listed in a blog linked in the verse page.

She can put him down with blows, yes. It really depends on what powers are being used, Power Null by overpowering her wouldn't work, nor as in hax (Based on her resistance), transmutation or bio manip would. After and if he has something land he can wish for her crystal to stop doing what it does just as vaguely as that or in some specific way, if done the former then magic can look what it needs to do on its own.

Causality Manip is more so used for fun and to fix things, not as a means to attack others. Timmy having his average intelligence may change things here, you should add that in the OP. SBA otherwise mean that the characters are at their best, which in Timmy's case means his best intelligence on his own.

The anti-magic wouldn't do anything against Low 2-C attacks, just against powers that don't have a tier, just scale. Please read the Hax and Resistance pages.

Having a lot of hax isn't the same as being likely to use a much of them. Conceptual would most likely be the result of wishing something vague and needing to happen for the wish to work. Causality Manip I already went over above, Fear was used once and to scare away some people over some minutes. Subjective Reality would be pretty pointless. Attack Reflection has no reason to work on the scale of her attacks. Probability Manip was only used for fun once. Disease Manip can happen but it's super unlikely due to how little times it was used. Physics was never used to attack anyone.

what about the sleep manipulation and stuff?

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

also edited the op.

but i said that sailor moon will have average intelligence as well. (though that wouldn't change anything because she only has average intelligence until lambda power)

unlike timmy who's intelligence ranges wildly.

 

[Eficiente]

what about the sleep manipulation

He used it twice and saw other godchild using it, so it's worth pointing out while it has no guarantee at all and other powers are more likely.

also edited the op.

but i said that sailor moon will have average intelligence as well. (though that wouldn't change anything because she only has average intelligence until lambda power)

unlike timmy who's intelligence ranges wildly.

This has me baffled then, idk when does "regular intelligence Timmy" ends and where "peak intelligence Timmy" starts. I assume he would still try to ends things in 1 or 2 wishes but in a much more simpler way.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

He used it twice and saw other godchild using it, so it's worth pointing out while it has no guarantee at all and other powers are more likely.

This has me baffled then, idk when does "regular intelligence Timmy" ends and where "peak intelligence Timmy" starts. I assume he would still try to ends things in 1 or 2 wishes but in a much more simpler way.

yeah i'm not sure after what you said. (so how exactly are we going to do with his intelligence?)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

eficiente question.

If damage transferal is in his magic key. should we use it?

(i mean it's also in the optional equipment key? (but we're not using any optional equipment here))

so allow or no?

(and yes i'm referring to those yoo doo dolls)

 

[Board3659]

He used it twice and saw other godchild using it, so it's worth pointing out while it has no guarantee at all and other powers are more likely.

This has me baffled then, idk when does "regular intelligence Timmy" ends and where "peak intelligence Timmy" starts. I assume he would still try to ends things in 1 or 2 wishes but in a much more simpler way.

I assume the same thing as you

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

bump

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

He used it twice and saw other godchild using it, so it's worth pointing out while it has no guarantee at all and other powers are more likely.

This has me baffled then, idk when does "regular intelligence Timmy" ends and where "peak intelligence Timmy" starts. I assume he would still try to ends things in 1 or 2 wishes but in a much more simpler way.

so uh, what should we do exactly with the intelligence. (is there a way around the baffling?)

 

[Eficiente]

Idk, do whatever seems more fair.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Idk, do whatever seems more fair.

then just give him normal intelligence

which i did

When lacking a motivation that may actually convince him to take things seriously, which would be most of the time, Timmy demonstrates an ordinary intellect. He's academically bad and could sometimes indirectly cause problems as a result of his wishes when made for fun or as a result of being repeatedly mistreated by people and situations he experiences. He is slightly manipulative and makes effective use of his wishes to deal with situations. Worthy enough to pull Excalibur out of its rock and be recognized as king of a middle-aged England, whereas a stronger adult couldn't. Once elected as president of a world ruled by kids, leading the planet to be peaceful and with no wars. Can recognize the Plot-Induced Stupidity he's being forced to maneuver through[44], though he can't prevent it in-universe, and he has noted twice how magic could end world hunger when the topic was uncalled for[45]. Has over 50 years of experience living his lifestyle shown through the show, although his mental age is still the same.