Sailor Moon NPI Additions (NEP)

[Azertyhuuh]

I think you're confused, because Both I and the NEP page are not using existence as in all encompassing all of reality context, but rather in the dictionary sense that "spacetime" exists.

On the NEP Type 2 explanation page, it says that 1 represents Existence and 0 represents Nonexistence — not that 1 represents Spacetime.

Spacetime is nothing more than a part of Existence, just one aspect of it. Existence is not merely Spacetime as you assume. Existence contains Spacetime, as well as worlds that lack Spacetime, concepts, laws, and so on...

Existence ≠ Spacetime, and this is something anyone else here would also tell you.

Since the Corridor only encompasses the depths of Spacetime and the void, it does not meet the requirements for NEP Type 2. For it to qualify, this Corridor would need to contain both Existence and Nonexistence at the same time. Only something that contains this duality would be outside the binary of Existence and Nonexistence.

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And if you don't believe my words, I can give you evidence that Spacetime itself is nothing more than one aspect among many other aspects — even from the NEP page itself↓

• Nonexistent Physiology for his source (Nature Type 2; Aspects Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 [Other: Logic, Law, Fate, History, Causality, Space-Time, Life & Death] - Ad Infinitum layers.

As you can see, Spacetime is only one single aspect among many others. If Spacetime = Existence, then we wouldn't bother putting many other aspects such as concepts, information, fate, logic, life, death, and laws. It would be enough to simply lack Spacetime — according to your logic — in order to lack all these other aspects as well.

As I told you, Spacetime is only a part of Existence, and this is what everyone here would tell you.

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

On the NEP Type 2 explanation page, it says that 1 represents Existence and 0 represents Nonexistence — not that 1 represents Spacetime.

Spacetime is nothing more than a part of Existence, just one aspect of it. Existence is not merely Spacetime as you assume. Existence contains Spacetime, as well as worlds that lack Spacetime, concepts, laws, and so on...

Existence ≠ Spacetime, and this is something anyone else here would also tell you.

Since the Corridor only encompasses the depths of Spacetime and the void, it does not meet the requirements for NEP Type 2. For it to qualify, this Corridor would need to contain both Existence and Nonexistence at the same time. Only something that contains this duality would be outside the binary of Existence and Nonexistence.

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And if you don't believe my words, I can give you evidence that Spacetime itself is nothing more than one aspect among many other aspects — even from the NEP page itself↓

• Nonexistent Physiology for his source (Nature Type 2; Aspects Type 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 [Other: Logic, Law, Fate, History, Causality, Space-Time, Life & Death] - Ad Infinitum layers.

As you can see, Spacetime is only one single aspect among many others. If Spacetime = Existence, then we wouldn't bother putting many other aspects such as concepts, information, fate, logic, life, death, and laws. It would be enough to simply lack Spacetime — according to your logic — in order to lack all these other aspects as well.

As I told you, Spacetime is only a part of Existence, and this is what everyone here would tell you.

I think you're being way to literal. I am not saying spacetime = existence, all that there is. I am saying that existence of spacetime is 1 and the nonexistence of spacetime is 0. That's page is using existence as an aspect, not an all ecompasing thing.

 

[Mbpoops]

I think you're being way to literal. I am not saying spacetime = existence, all that there is. I am saying that existence of spacetime is 1 and the nonexistence of spacetime is 0. That's page is using existence as an aspect, not an all ecompasing thing.

Well no, because space-time is only an aspect of “1” not the entirety of “1” so yea it woulf just be nep1 aspect 5 (space-time) because all it really does is just lack spacetime

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Well no, because space-time is only an aspect of “1” not the entirety of “1” so yea it woulf just be nep1 aspect 5 (space-time) because all it really does is just lack spacetime

??? what are you talking about? What do you mean is "entirety of 1"?

The 0 and 1 on the NEP page refers to the existent aspect and the nonexistent aspect. You're reading way too much into this and adding a lot of confusing things that don't apply.

The depths of spacetimes is 1 and the void of spacetime is 0. And the corridor is neither of the two.

 

[Mbpoops]

??? what are you talking about? What do you mean is "entirety of 1"?

The 0 and 1 on the NEP page refers to the existent aspect and the nonexistent aspect. You're reading way too much into this and adding a lot of confusing things that don't apply.

The depths of spacetimes is 1 and the void of spacetime is 0. And the corridor is neither of the two.

it should be pretty simple

existence is 1, space-time is an aspect of existence ergo space-time isnt all of existence, it is just a part of existence, and so simply lacking spacetime wouldnt mean you transcend or lack existence as a whole it just means you lack the spatio-temporal aspects of existence.

 

[Maniaunavailable]

actually nvm opoositions made better points lmao, disagree FRA

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

it should be pretty simple

existence is 1, space-time is an aspect of existence ergo space-time isnt all of existence, it is just a part of existence, and so simply lacking spacetime wouldnt mean you transcend or lack existence as a whole it just means you lack the spatio-temporal aspects of existence.

Okay but that’s not what the OP is stating at all. You’re arguing against a strawman and ignoring the actual thing I am stating.

Also existence is 1 is not at all a thing in the wiki standards. You’re twisting the rules with made up things.

 

[Mbpoops]

Okay but that’s not what the OP is stating at all. You’re arguing against a strawman and ignoring the actual thing I am stating.

well, then im gonna be blunt here. your op is wrong.

Also existence is 1 is not at all a thing in the wiki standards. You’re twisting the rules with made up things.

The character doesn't exist in a conventional sense. In terms of binary, this would be a 0, where existence is 1 and nonexistence is 0

sure bro sure

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

well, then im gonna be blunt here. your op is wrong.



sure bro sure

all of existence* is what i should have said

Because the wiki is talking about nonexistent aspects. It opens talking about lacking aspects.

The 1 or 0 is a metaphor for existent aspects and non existent aspect. Type 2 are for things that are neither 1 or 0.

There is no concept of “all of existence” is 1.

 

[Mbpoops]

all of existence* is what i should have said

Because the wiki is talking about nonexistent aspects. It opens talking about lacking aspects.

The 1 or 0 is a metaphor for existent aspects and non existent aspect. Type 2 are for things that are neither 1 or 0.

There is no concept of “all of existence” is 1.

existence being 1 would insinuate all of existence is 1. there is no concept of "all of existence" its just existence.

the 1 and 0 analogy is just an analogy yes, but those aspects that are apart of existence are what make of existence, this includes space and time. the scans in the OP do not support the idea that the cooridoor is simply nonexistent of every aspect or that it simply doesnt exist, just that is lacks spatio-temporal aspects. this can be fufilled by nep1 aspect 5 (space-time) theres no need for nep2

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

existence being 1 would insinuate all of existence is 1. there is no concept of "all of existence" its just existence.

the 1 and 0 analogy is just an analogy yes, but those aspects that are apart of existence are what make of existence, this includes space and time. the scans in the OP do not support the idea that the cooridoor is simply nonexistent of every aspect or that it simply doesnt exist, just that is lacks spatio-temporal aspects. this can be fufilled by nep1 aspect 5 (space-time) theres no need for nep2

since when does nep 2 require all aspects? Like what are you talking about? There are ton of characters with nep 2 for singular aspects

 

[Mbpoops]

since when does nep 2 require all aspects? Like what are you talking about? There are ton of characters with nep 2 for singular aspects

was wrong about that mb, but there still isnt proof about the corridoor being completely nonexistent

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

was wrong about that mb, but there still isnt proof about the corridoor being completely nonexistent

The corridor is a void and that has been accepted as a void on this wiki for years.

 

[Mbpoops]

The corridor is a void and that has been accepted as a void on this wiki for years.

Being a void doesnt automatically mean nep2

Didnt know herrscher of the void was nep2

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Being a void doesnt automatically mean nep2

Didnt know herrscher of the void was nep2

You keep moving the goal posts.

You said there isn’t proof that the corridor is nonexistent and i corrected it. The corridor being a void isn’t the crux of evidence provided in the OP.

The actual thing is that corridor contains both spacetime and the void of spacetime.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Ngl, this seems like npe3 rather than npe2

 

[Vietthai96]

Huh? What is happening?

A void is textbook NEP1, @Mbpoops @Azertyhuuh you guys are comparing dimension with character. What constitute the existence of a dimension, realm is its dimensions or space-time, so a void that lack space-time or dimensions is a void, a nonexistent dimensions. Yes a character can lack space-time but still existing because they have other things that still constitute their existence, like body and soul, etc....., but dimensions only need to possesses dimensional axes to exist, lacking them mean they are nonexistent dimension, are void, so the OP are arguing about dimension being NEP and interacting with it is NPI interaction

Anyway at best i could see is NEP1 for the corridor, the void of space-time, the way it is phrased doesn't mean literal void of nothingness that devoid space and time, just mean empty space-time

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Ngl, this seems like npe3 rather than npe2

I don’t think so.

Let’s say existence is a kitchen and nonexistence is a bathroom. Type three would be some weird room that is both a kitchen and a bathroom.

Type 2 would be like a house that contains the kitchen and bathroom. A house is more than just the rooms in it. It’s an entire different category and you wouldn’t call a house a kitchen, bathroom, or some combination of the two

 

[Iamunanimousinthat]

Anyway at best i could see is NEP1 for the corridor, the void of space-time, the way it is phrased doesn't mean literal void of nothingness that devoid space and time, just mean empty space-time

Noway that something that erases things from existence is just empty spacetime, that interpretation literally makes zero sense and only exists to downplay