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Speed equalised.
Who wins?
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Saiki vs Goku
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Speed equalised.
Who wins?
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Didn't think anyone would actually use Saiki in vs-threads...
Either way, through reality warping and possibly getting some time advantage through astral projection saiki could in theory stand a chance.
But in practice Saki is not someone that fights a lot and will be instantly killed given that he will die through any slight touch of goku. He can restore his physical state through time manipulation, but he has not demonstrated being capable of doing it fast enough to escape an otherwise lethal attack.
In other words even in speed equal saikis chances of playing his advantages are slim, so goku takes this IMO.
Either way, through reality warping and possibly getting some time advantage through astral projection saiki could in theory stand a chance.
But in practice Saki is not someone that fights a lot and will be instantly killed given that he will die through any slight touch of goku. He can restore his physical state through time manipulation, but he has not demonstrated being capable of doing it fast enough to escape an otherwise lethal attack.
In other words even in speed equal saikis chances of playing his advantages are slim, so goku takes this IMO.
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True, but I'm not anyone, I'm Sakata Gintoki mwahahaDontTalk said:
And yeah usually anyone would pick Goku as the victor, but Saiki can still win if he manages to use his advantages seriously and effectively.
And remember Goku doesnt kill or attack instantly, he waits for his opponent to go full power, in a realistic fight with speed equalised I say Saiki might take it.
What do you think?
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Durability doesn't matter much if he can also one shot goku with reality warping.
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I vote inconclusive cause Goku may Kill saiki before he uses reality warp but at the same time saiki is pretty unversed and should be used cautiously
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But the thing is, speed is equalised and so Goku can't kill Saiki straight away, not only that but Goku is the type to let his opponent go full power, Saiki has enough time to use reality warping to one shot Goku.Yomi Schwarz said:
Goku is stronger yes, but Saiki has one thing that can defeat Goku and that's his reality warping.
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Inconclusive. Both can one shot the other, and I can't find a reason why one would be able to do it before the other.
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Well I guess it's inconclusive then.
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well gonna go with saiki cause that boy have precognition andbefore they fight saiki will know what will goku do plus reality warping is instant cast if you read marvel's house of m you will know that reality warping is fast plus how goku will know that saiki will use reality warping goku doesnt have precognition or any mind reading saiki in the other hand have precognition and mind reading plus goku is a guy who wants to see his opponents full potential before he fight his opponent saiki in the other hand if his attacks dont work he will remove his limiters so he can use reality warping plus saiki is a genius if he is a kind of guy who wants to end it pretty quickly he can either use reality warping or dodge goku's attack exhaust him then use reality warp or fake his death then use astral projection and do the killing blow
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goku has mind powers too, his range is galactic at lowest and universal at highest. since he regualrly talks to king kai etc.
also dbz has hax resistance through over powering the opponent. e.g: trunks vs dabura, vegito vs buu, goku vs hit.
if speeds equalized then goku would hit first due to IT.
also dbz has hax resistance through over powering the opponent. e.g: trunks vs dabura, vegito vs buu, goku vs hit.
if speeds equalized then goku would hit first due to IT.
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While I still go with goku winning all this arguments are bad.IcarusXI said:
telepathy over long range neither implies resistance to mind control nor is range a good measure for the power of mind stuff.
"Hax resistance" isn't a thing that exists. There is resistance against specific hax and even further there is such a thing as the standard mainstream shonen hax that just stops working against strong opponents even without them having any particular resistance against it.
Saiki can teleport too. Himself and his opponent.
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Saiki via reality warping hax.
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Saiki will give Goku a heart virus.
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hahaha spawn savage as **** saiki still got this like does goku survived a reality warping powers
Saiki takes off his glasses before the battle, turns Goku to stone.
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Saiki wins this mainly because he might accidentally cause an isssue with goku prior to the fight. Such as turning him to stone, or using mind control to avert the fight as a whole. Even in combat saiki can see practically anything coming. He can easily counter just about anything goku throws at him. The only thing saiki can't alter is Goku's Super Sayan transformations. Also Saiki can recreate himself multiple times thus causing it to be 10 or 100 Saiki's with the same abilities as the original vs. one Goku.
Saiki K wins this. He would know Goku's actions before Goku performed those actions.
The thing is that both can one shot each other. Speed is equalized here so it's basically who can use thier one shot move first, which is Saiki in this case.
Goku needs to physically hit Saiki or send an energy blast to him, both take time to reach the opponent and Saiki can just dodge in that timeframe.
Saiki has a variaty of ways to hax kill Goku. He can use mind manipulation, which is instantaneous and undodgable. Turn him into stone, which is instantaneous and the only condition that is requiered is for Saiki to look at Goku's eyes. Time travel, this one is pretty self explanatory.
Saiki can also easily dodge any of Goku's attacks due to his powers. He could use apport to switch goku with another thing of similar value, so he would control Goku's location a bit. If he needs to he can use his Clairvoyance to see anything that Goku does from afar. He can use his precognition to predict how the fight will go and what he needs to change if there are any problems. Saiki's telepathy holds a major role as with it he knows what Goku is thinking and what he will do, so he can basically predict his every movement. His teleportation is obviously used when Goku is too close and he needs to get away. And his most important power for dodging, Bilocation. With that one he can make duplicates of himself with the same powers he has, making Goku has way more enemies and each one of them can use an instantaneous range one shot move. They could also protect Saiki when he is in danger, even at the cost of sacrificing themselves.
Goku teleporting to Saiki wouldn't help much because of Saiki precognition and mind reading, making him able to completely predict where and when Goku will teleport and how he will attack, making Saiki perfectly dodge it and gather some distance to use his powers. Heck, he might even be able to touch Goku in instances like those and place a curse on him.Though this ability is pretty abstract and we know basically nothing about it so I won't count it as another option for Saiki to win.
So yeah, it is a complete stomp with Saiki winning. It would be more of a challenge if speeds weren't equalized so we would debate if Goku is fast enough to hit Saiki before he could use his powers.
Goku needs to physically hit Saiki or send an energy blast to him, both take time to reach the opponent and Saiki can just dodge in that timeframe.
Saiki has a variaty of ways to hax kill Goku. He can use mind manipulation, which is instantaneous and undodgable. Turn him into stone, which is instantaneous and the only condition that is requiered is for Saiki to look at Goku's eyes. Time travel, this one is pretty self explanatory.
Saiki can also easily dodge any of Goku's attacks due to his powers. He could use apport to switch goku with another thing of similar value, so he would control Goku's location a bit. If he needs to he can use his Clairvoyance to see anything that Goku does from afar. He can use his precognition to predict how the fight will go and what he needs to change if there are any problems. Saiki's telepathy holds a major role as with it he knows what Goku is thinking and what he will do, so he can basically predict his every movement. His teleportation is obviously used when Goku is too close and he needs to get away. And his most important power for dodging, Bilocation. With that one he can make duplicates of himself with the same powers he has, making Goku has way more enemies and each one of them can use an instantaneous range one shot move. They could also protect Saiki when he is in danger, even at the cost of sacrificing themselves.
Goku teleporting to Saiki wouldn't help much because of Saiki precognition and mind reading, making him able to completely predict where and when Goku will teleport and how he will attack, making Saiki perfectly dodge it and gather some distance to use his powers. Heck, he might even be able to touch Goku in instances like those and place a curse on him.Though this ability is pretty abstract and we know basically nothing about it so I won't count it as another option for Saiki to win.
So yeah, it is a complete stomp with Saiki winning. It would be more of a challenge if speeds weren't equalized so we would debate if Goku is fast enough to hit Saiki before he could use his powers.
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Saiki does know about Goku and his writer so he knows that Goku fears needle
