Ryūryō Ichigi vs Calvin Lucien

[Kirinator07]

Ichigi's Subjective Reality isn't based on the Noosphere, they are two separate verses. Also, you seem to have misunderstood his power.

Even if it isn't, what stops Calvin from just negging his mind from culminating to tier 0 Subjective Reality?

He just has to be 100% sure of something, to do something.

Like I said, he is not 100% he could destroy a dimension for example, he doesn't know what a dimension is or how big it is, and all those doubts and second guesses disrupt his ability to perform an action.

Calvin is also overzealous so I don't know what happens thereafter

Depends on how it works.

It isn't a direct attack, so Ichigi can't parry or do anything to it when he's possibly negated.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Even if it isn't, what stops Calvin from just negging his mind from culminating to tier 0 Subjective Reality?

Is it an AOE, Reality Warping?

It isn't a direct attack, so Ichigi can't parry or do anything to it when he's possibly negated.

But how does it work though?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Even if it isn't, what stops Calvin from just negging his mind from culminating to tier 0 Subjective Reality?



Calvin is also overzealous so I don't know what happens thereafter


It isn't a direct attack, so Ichigi can't parry or do anything to it when he's possibly negated.

I think you're really overselling what Calvin can do. He's just a normal guy. The spear kills Gods and nulls holy powers. Noosphere shenanigans wouldn't matter here.

Verse equalisation also means that Ichigi doesn't have a Noosphere since verse specific cosmology and physiologies do not cross over.

 

[Kirinator07]

I think you're really overselling what Calvin can do. He's just a normal guy. The spear kills Gods and nulls holy powers. Noosphere shenanigans wouldn't matter here.

Verse equalisation also means that Ichigi doesn't have a Noosphere since verse specific cosmology and physiologies do not cross over.

In which unless it's AOE or whatever would actually have to require him to make contact with Ichigo before he could use Faith.

 

[Kirinator07]

But how does it work though?

It can catch various things between dimensions and universes.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

It can catch various things between dimensions and universes.

It would get blocked, deflected or repelled if it needs to hook onto him.

 

[Kirinator07]

It would get blocked, deflected or repelled if it needs to hook onto him.

How would it counter an anomalous fishing rod that can hook through High 1-A dimensions?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

How would it counter an anomalous fishing rod that can hook through High 1-A dimensions?

It still needs to hook him before it can do any High 1-A crap, so he hits it before it touches him.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

The hook is not High 1-A. It can grab and pull people across 2-A ranges but that's it.

 

[Kirinator07]

The hook is not High 1-A. It can grab and pull people across 2-A ranges but that's it.

Then why is it Low 1-C as well

It still needs to hook him before it can do any High 1-A crap, so he hits it before it touches him.

Is his attack reflection a part of his faith though?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Then why is it Low 1-C as well

What?

 

[Kirinator07]

What?

For some reason it has Low 1-C range

 

[Kirinator07]

His attack reflection and evasion are limited to his faith, which could get negated by the spear given Calvin's high stamina then he'd reel his sword or him into a higher dimension.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

His attack reflection and evasion are limited to his faith, which could get negated by the spear given Calvin's high stamina then he'd reel his sword or him into a higher dimension.

I mean Ichigi has Infinite Stamina with his Faith, and I don't see how he is hooking the sword or Ichigi without it getting deflected.

 

[Kirinator07]

I mean Ichigi has Infinite Stamina with his Faith, and I don't see how he is hooking the sword or Ichigi without it getting deflected.

Its all tied to his faith which could get negated though.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Its all tied to his faith which could get negated though.

I already asked, does it only work on religious faith, or simple beliefs, like the Earth is round?

 

[Kirinator07]

I already asked, does it only work on religious faith, or simple beliefs, like the Earth is round?

Read Oven's comment about Akiva Radiation, and your other point wasn't necessary.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Read Oven's comment about Akiva Radiation, and your other point wasn't necessary.

Akiva particles represent units of divinity. Unlike matter and energy, which are incapable of being destroyed, Akiva particles can become existent and non-existent through various means. The most famous example of a way that an Akiva particle can become non-existent is SCP-001-SPK, which is the only known location without an Akiva field (I'll explain Akiva particle/field interaction in a bit), but there are also other ways such as divine entity consuming them. Akiva particles are created via worship, artifacts with divine significance, or entities formed by 'divine intervention

The Idealistic Sword is not part of divinity, worship, or anything divine and would not fall under the category of Akiva Particles.

 

[Kirinator07]

The Idealistic Sword is not part of divinity, worship, or anything divine and would not fall under the category of Akiva Particles.

Then I don't know why this matchup was even made in the first place.

 

[Kirinator07]

Because the way it would've gone is once the spear even remotely gets close to him, his faith would be negated then he would be hooked into a Low 1-C realm.