Gilad_Hyperstar
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She can only turn to Water, Lightning or Wind
And it's still a stomp no matter what Miraculous Ryuko does
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Ryuko (Kill La Kill) vs Ryuko (Miraculous Ladybug)
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And it's still a stomp no matter what Miraculous Ryuko does
azontr
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Then why does it say she can turn into whatever element she wants lol. Justification needs adjusting.
Spinoirr
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"Then she could lightning, or literally anything else."
She can turn into stuff other than what's listed on her profile? Because going by what's on her page 2 out of the 3 of Ryuko's elemental forms get killed by Ryuko existing
"No, it isn't fine to allow. It is still a 6-A weapon, and I think you know what will happen if you attack a High 7-C with a 6-A weapon.."
They get cut, they don't explode or something. The weapon just has high 6-A cutting power not striking power
She can turn into stuff other than what's listed on her profile? Because going by what's on her page 2 out of the 3 of Ryuko's elemental forms get killed by Ryuko existing
"No, it isn't fine to allow. It is still a 6-A weapon, and I think you know what will happen if you attack a High 7-C with a 6-A weapon.."
They get cut, they don't explode or something. The weapon just has high 6-A cutting power not striking power
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6-A cutting power with a sword still is striking strength
Striking Strength is the amount of physical force an individual can deal out in a single strike. In other words, it is the physical Attack Potency of an individual
azontr
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It says elemental intangibility that can turn her into any element she wants. The justification needs to say that she's limited to what she can turn into.
That doesn't make it fair, it's still 6-A attack power dude.
Spinoirr
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"That doesn't make it fair, it's still 6-A attack power dude."
It's not attack power though, she can just cut 6-As with it, if it were direct attack power her striking strength would also be 6-A. Basically think of it as a dura negating weapon but it only negates durability up to 6-A
It's not attack power though, she can just cut 6-As with it, if it were direct attack power her striking strength would also be 6-A. Basically think of it as a dura negating weapon but it only negates durability up to 6-A
azontr
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That is not at all how we treat this. If you harm a 6-A, you can output 6-A energy. If she couldn't, the scissor blade would not be 6-A.
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That's wrong, but whatever, even going with your own logic, Ryuko still gets sliced by a 6-A weapon
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Ryuko still has no way to win here, therefore a stomp
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Spinoirr
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azontr
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Who the hell said that lol.Wolverine (Marvel Comics)
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RandomGuy2345
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Should the scissor blade be restricted, then?
azontr
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It already is.
RandomGuy2345
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So is the matchup still a stomp?
azontr
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I guess.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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This should be closed
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Miraculous Ryuko can't get around Kill La Kill's Ryuko's regen, and the latter has many options to kill her in return
azontr
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Even I don't understand how that will help lol.
azontr
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Ryuko would never try that. She beats your ass, she doesn't grapple it.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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She can't overcome her High-Mid regen, since even if manages to slice her she regens from that
Spinoirr
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"Isn’t miraculous Ryuko stronger here? 151 kilotons vs 116 kilotons"
Ryuko's 116 kiloton feat is done absurdly casually, in essence it was done just by her existing, and she has multiple means of amping herself on top of that
"Maybe if Ryuko tries putting Ryuko in a chokehold"
Trying that gets Ryuko cut to ribbons by Senketsu Senjin and burned by her body heat
Also ryuko doesnt need oxygen so that wouldnt do much anyways
Here it is what I wanted to say for this thread I must have copied the other thing from the notes I was writing to copy here as going back and forth from tabs somehow gets rid of the stuff I was typing
Ryuko's 116 kiloton feat is done absurdly casually, in essence it was done just by her existing, and she has multiple means of amping herself on top of that
"Maybe if Ryuko tries putting Ryuko in a chokehold"
Trying that gets Ryuko cut to ribbons by Senketsu Senjin and burned by her body heat
Also ryuko doesnt need oxygen so that wouldnt do much anyways
Here it is what I wanted to say for this thread I must have copied the other thing from the notes I was writing to copy here as going back and forth from tabs somehow gets rid of the stuff I was typing
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Someone either has to make a CRT to add continental striking Strength to Ryuko's profile or stop with the argument that a High 7-C can swing a weapon and suddenly the weapon outputs 6-A force.
It's specifically states on the scissor blade profile "Cut Ragyō Kiryūin to pieces and can cut Nui Harime" so that means it only is able to cut things up to 6-A durability, and considering the fact Ryuko has used this blade to hit opponents who aren't 6-A before and they didn't instantly did it clearly means that high 7-C Ryuko is only limited to cutting 6-A durability not outputting that amount of force.
Although I don't think the more clothed Ryuko can win, I'd like to point out
Ryuko hasn't shown to be able to cut lightning, wind or water which are the elements Ryuko can control and become intangible with as the page states "Able to convert her body in the element of her desire".
Unless Ryuko's body is as hot as the sun "Comparable to Snake Noir, who was unfazed after being teleported close to the sun" it won't do anything.
Ik that Ryuko (less clothed) is more skilled in combat however Ryuko (more clothed) is still listed as an expert swordsman and expert H2H fighter which involves quick thinking meaning she should at the very least be able to turn intangible in time before the other Ryuko attacks meaning she has a defense against them.
And although I heavily doubt a kids show character will do this in character, depending on the limit of Ryuko's high mid, Ryuko could try and turn into water and enter inside Ryuko's mouth or nose because her page states "The User is transformed into water, allowing them to pass through tight openings. They also can generate and control massive amounts of water." and then proceed to generate large amounts of water or electricity until less clothed Ryuko explodes because her page states "Able to create relatively big amounts of the element of her desire".
Personally, I think that if this match was bloodlusted it would be much better as miraculous Ryuko would be more inclined to try tactics such as entering Ryuko's body and doing damage that could exceed her limit of regeneration while the opposing Ryuko will still be able to utilise her skill and moveset to attempt to prevent this from happening. This will result in a stamina match as to whether Ryuko can get a hit on an opponent who can go intangible with a thought and Ryuko trying to enter the other Ryuko's body and blow her up.
If this happens then less clothed Ryuko wins due to higher stamina and the other Ryuko having a time limit iirc.
It's specifically states on the scissor blade profile "Cut Ragyō Kiryūin to pieces and can cut Nui Harime" so that means it only is able to cut things up to 6-A durability, and considering the fact Ryuko has used this blade to hit opponents who aren't 6-A before and they didn't instantly did it clearly means that high 7-C Ryuko is only limited to cutting 6-A durability not outputting that amount of force.
Although I don't think the more clothed Ryuko can win, I'd like to point out
Ryuko hasn't shown to be able to cut lightning, wind or water which are the elements Ryuko can control and become intangible with as the page states "Able to convert her body in the element of her desire".
Unless Ryuko's body is as hot as the sun "Comparable to Snake Noir, who was unfazed after being teleported close to the sun" it won't do anything.
Ik that Ryuko (less clothed) is more skilled in combat however Ryuko (more clothed) is still listed as an expert swordsman and expert H2H fighter which involves quick thinking meaning she should at the very least be able to turn intangible in time before the other Ryuko attacks meaning she has a defense against them.
And although I heavily doubt a kids show character will do this in character, depending on the limit of Ryuko's high mid, Ryuko could try and turn into water and enter inside Ryuko's mouth or nose because her page states "The User is transformed into water, allowing them to pass through tight openings. They also can generate and control massive amounts of water." and then proceed to generate large amounts of water or electricity until less clothed Ryuko explodes because her page states "Able to create relatively big amounts of the element of her desire".
Personally, I think that if this match was bloodlusted it would be much better as miraculous Ryuko would be more inclined to try tactics such as entering Ryuko's body and doing damage that could exceed her limit of regeneration while the opposing Ryuko will still be able to utilise her skill and moveset to attempt to prevent this from happening. This will result in a stamina match as to whether Ryuko can get a hit on an opponent who can go intangible with a thought and Ryuko trying to enter the other Ryuko's body and blow her up.
Spinoirr
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" It's specifically states on the scissor blade profile "Cut Ragyō Kiryūin to pieces and can cut Nui Harime" so that means it only is able to cut things up to 6-A durability, and considering the fact Ryuko has used this blade to hit opponents who aren't 6-A before and they didn't instantly did it clearly means that high 7-C Ryuko is only limited to cutting 6-A durability not outputting that amount of force."
There already was a crt, and on said crt it was agreed that her sword is 6-A while her physical strength is only high 7-C. Durability negating weapons and weapons that can cut things above the level that the user can physically punch are extremely common, I'm not really sure why this is such an issue.
"Personally, I think that if this match was bloodlusted it would be much better as miraculous Ryuko would be more inclined to try tactics such as entering Ryuko's body and doing damage that could exceed her limit of regeneration while the opposing Ryuko will still be able to utilise her skill and moveset to attempt to prevent this from happening. This will result in a stamina match as to whether Ryuko can get a hit on an opponent who can go intangible with a thought and Ryuko trying to enter the other Ryuko's body and blow her up."
Ryuko can regen from and scales to people who can regen from being torn to shreds and cut into thousands of pieces so trying to blow her up from the inside isnt likely to work.
And Ryuko's shockwaves still blow away two out of Ryuko's three intangible forms just from the sheer pressure exerted by her existence
As for the lightning form, ryuko's passive frequency redirects energy attacks so that's not super likely to work either
There already was a crt, and on said crt it was agreed that her sword is 6-A while her physical strength is only high 7-C. Durability negating weapons and weapons that can cut things above the level that the user can physically punch are extremely common, I'm not really sure why this is such an issue.
"Personally, I think that if this match was bloodlusted it would be much better as miraculous Ryuko would be more inclined to try tactics such as entering Ryuko's body and doing damage that could exceed her limit of regeneration while the opposing Ryuko will still be able to utilise her skill and moveset to attempt to prevent this from happening. This will result in a stamina match as to whether Ryuko can get a hit on an opponent who can go intangible with a thought and Ryuko trying to enter the other Ryuko's body and blow her up."
Ryuko can regen from and scales to people who can regen from being torn to shreds and cut into thousands of pieces so trying to blow her up from the inside isnt likely to work.
And Ryuko's shockwaves still blow away two out of Ryuko's three intangible forms just from the sheer pressure exerted by her existence
As for the lightning form, ryuko's passive frequency redirects energy attacks so that's not super likely to work either
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