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Not sure if anyone is going to listen to me, but i guess i'll speak my mind and hope for the best.
There is a calculation of weiss freezing the nevermore:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Crazystarf/Weiss_Freezes_Nevermore's_Tail
i personally dont think that freezing and creating ice are the same thing, but nevermind. The point is, even if she can create such things, doesnt mean she can deal all that as damage. power of creation /=/ power of destruction. ofc that could've have been the case if weiss could convert ALL of her aura into a single attack and strike the enemy with ALL of it, without any of it being wasted (AoE being larger than the enemy). However, there is no such thing as energy conversion with 100% efficiency, bcs if that was the case we would have engines who can support themselves by their own produced energy, thus having infinite energy. the same is with the damage dealt. lets compare two types of attack of the same power (110 tons). 1. AoE attack - it will cover a larger area but at the same time the damage will be more spread and a human sized target will effectively receive less damage. 2. a punch - all of the 110 tons will be focused into a fist, which would effectively hit a human sized enemy with WAY larger force and also the area hit would be even less than human size, so it would hurt even more.
It is also important to know effects of the attack - movement restriction/creation/pure damage etc.. in weiss' case, she created the ice and encased NM tail in it. As damage goes, that would at best reach 1kg of TNT. For weiss to deal MCB level of DAMAGE, she'd have to create HUGE ice shards of which she has never created and drop onto the enemy at high speeds.
So, i'd suggest we'd not take weiss feat as damage dealt, since scaling from it is absurd. even a normal person encased in that amount of ice for a few seconds would probably survive, however a normal person would NEVER EVER survive 110 tons of tnt. The fact that the whole RWBY team was attacking Roman's Paladin to little effect, while Yang activated her semblance and one-shotted it with 248MN/60kg of tnt force punch - https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11612219/3/Ruby-Theory-Question-Corner just proves this. So we'd better be scaling off Yang than Weiss.
Also one does not need to be MCB to damage some1's aura. Aura takes damage from all blows, big or small, the difference is just the amount of it would be taken away differs.
There is also Mercury and Emerald dodging lightning. I looked at that frame by frame and came to a conclusion that its not exactly them dodging it, but in fact Amber missing them just by a bit pretty much all the time. The first strike even hits the ground first before they even move from their spot:
There is also the time when Mercury was show in comparison to the lightning: Assuming the lightning came from ~1km high, it took 0.2s to travel to the ground, while Mercury in that time moved about 4 meters, which would put Mercury on atleast 20m/s.
Also if we assume real cloud to ground lightning , which is 220000mph or mach ~287, which would put Mercury at mach 25 at best. It doesnt help their case that they couldnt avoid a shower of frozen leaves several seconds after. no matter how fast those leves traveled, they certainly were nowhere near the speed of lightning.
Also Ruby, who can moves over mach 2 with her semblance , got past Mercury. (second time's the charm).
P.S. For me, feats and calculations > scaling.
There is a calculation of weiss freezing the nevermore:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Crazystarf/Weiss_Freezes_Nevermore's_Tail
i personally dont think that freezing and creating ice are the same thing, but nevermind. The point is, even if she can create such things, doesnt mean she can deal all that as damage. power of creation /=/ power of destruction. ofc that could've have been the case if weiss could convert ALL of her aura into a single attack and strike the enemy with ALL of it, without any of it being wasted (AoE being larger than the enemy). However, there is no such thing as energy conversion with 100% efficiency, bcs if that was the case we would have engines who can support themselves by their own produced energy, thus having infinite energy. the same is with the damage dealt. lets compare two types of attack of the same power (110 tons). 1. AoE attack - it will cover a larger area but at the same time the damage will be more spread and a human sized target will effectively receive less damage. 2. a punch - all of the 110 tons will be focused into a fist, which would effectively hit a human sized enemy with WAY larger force and also the area hit would be even less than human size, so it would hurt even more.
It is also important to know effects of the attack - movement restriction/creation/pure damage etc.. in weiss' case, she created the ice and encased NM tail in it. As damage goes, that would at best reach 1kg of TNT. For weiss to deal MCB level of DAMAGE, she'd have to create HUGE ice shards of which she has never created and drop onto the enemy at high speeds.
So, i'd suggest we'd not take weiss feat as damage dealt, since scaling from it is absurd. even a normal person encased in that amount of ice for a few seconds would probably survive, however a normal person would NEVER EVER survive 110 tons of tnt. The fact that the whole RWBY team was attacking Roman's Paladin to little effect, while Yang activated her semblance and one-shotted it with 248MN/60kg of tnt force punch - https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11612219/3/Ruby-Theory-Question-Corner just proves this. So we'd better be scaling off Yang than Weiss.
Also one does not need to be MCB to damage some1's aura. Aura takes damage from all blows, big or small, the difference is just the amount of it would be taken away differs.
There is also Mercury and Emerald dodging lightning. I looked at that frame by frame and came to a conclusion that its not exactly them dodging it, but in fact Amber missing them just by a bit pretty much all the time. The first strike even hits the ground first before they even move from their spot:
There is also the time when Mercury was show in comparison to the lightning: Assuming the lightning came from ~1km high, it took 0.2s to travel to the ground, while Mercury in that time moved about 4 meters, which would put Mercury on atleast 20m/s.
Also if we assume real cloud to ground lightning , which is 220000mph or mach ~287, which would put Mercury at mach 25 at best. It doesnt help their case that they couldnt avoid a shower of frozen leaves several seconds after. no matter how fast those leves traveled, they certainly were nowhere near the speed of lightning.
Also Ruby, who can moves over mach 2 with her semblance , got past Mercury. (second time's the charm).
P.S. For me, feats and calculations > scaling.
