8-C vs 8A...
Batman has a huge intelligence advantage, Rouxls is terrible at reading a room or getting a proper grasp on a situation. If Batman just takes off his cowl Rouxls is not gonna recognize him. At that point I feel it's a question of if Batman can get past Rouxls hax (and how exactly he'd do it.)
His intellegence dosen't really matter when rouxls is more than 1000s of times faster than him
again...thousands of times faster than him + batman is not gonna just take off his cowl in the middle of the fight against a random dude he precives as a threat
he dosen't (without prep ofc)
The attacks aren't 1000x faster, even if Rouxls can keep up with the Delta Warriors physically, nothing says his magic does. How fast they move in-game is how fast they move. Batman could dodge those attacks.
literally everyone in the verse is FTL, if the attacks are keeping up with the fun gang then yes they are moving that fast. blame it on powerscaling brainrot i suppose.
kaard is the coughing baby here btw, the coughing baby just happens to work out twice a week and can take on the hydrogen bomb.Having only one of those advantages will already be a stomp
Whatever i don't feel like arguing about speed. I disagree with the way the vast majority of this site interperets speed i guess. Is it too late to put speed neutralization in the OP
So uhh lemme compare the speeds rq so you can get the idea
Ummm buddy if this only scales to his magic you would see something along the lines of "FTL attack speed" not just "FTL"
What are you even saying? How fast the characters move in-game is 129326.263872x faster than how fast batman can dodge
speed equilization dosen't change anything either because of the tier difference (8-C vs 8A)
In my opinion based on what we see in game, the light we see in the attacks doesn't move at light speed. To me the "Occams Razor" explanation would be that this is just magical light energy that moves slower, probably at the speed we see it move in game, not that literally everyone in this universe can move faster than light. That feels way more intuitive and makes alot more sense.
equalize speed whenever. doesn't change Batman physically can't harm him due to being 8-C vs 8-A.
you forget that bruce dosen't have prep time here and speed isn't equalized
Also, we don't know what medium the light is moving through in the dark world, the medium of the battle box could be slowing down the light significantly, like how light moves slower through water and such.
it does by virtue of being light chat...
this was accepted to have the properties of rule light
But you have no way to prove that. You'd need evidence that the light wasn't real light, and you'd need to make a CRT to downgrade the whole verse.
again all that stuff was handled in the CRT and explained in explicit detail
No, the light is moving that fast in game BECAUSE its light
It doesn't move as fast as light IRL because we can see it moving slower than light IRL would. The game-world isn't "slowing down" specifically for these zapper fights so we can see the light moving in slow motion, nothing indicates that.
It is vsbw what do u expect
In perspective to the characters who are supposed to be faster than light, yes
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Nobody is saying the game world is physically slowing down, what we ARE saying is that we are seeing things in the characters POV not in a human POV and the characters are suppose to be much faster therefore we can see the light
The game is not from the character's perspective, it's from our perspective, in deltarune we literally ARE a canon element in this world. Nothing indicates that "Oh yeah, we're seeing things how someone who moves at light speed would move" you're just assuming that has to be the case because you think these characters are FTL based on lasers that clearly don't move that fast.In perspective to the characters who are supposed to be faster than light, yes
if we actually saw everything in game at human lvl perception then the game wouldn't even be playable thats why game mechanics make things formatted in such a way to where everything looks visable to us
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Nobody is saying the game world is physically slowing down, what we ARE saying is that we are seeing things in the characters POV not in a human POV and the characters are suppose to be much faster therefore we can see the light
in the game, we are a Multiversal time controlling god. are you a multiversal time controlling god? I didn't think so. How we the player are shown in deltarune is a lot different from what we actually are like.
which has us experience actions made by the characters....
thats partially true, theres an entity made as a stand in for us
the lasers don't move that based on??
We aren't God in Deltarune, we're the soul, or at least piloting it. Are you saying that the hockey puck Kris throws at us is multiversal?
Which is the "god" (at least a part of what we the entity use to interact with the game ofc)
No because Kris even dosen't scale to the player else they would be like 2B
The lasers don't move that fast based on the fact if you watch the battle footage in game they don't move faster than light and to assume "Oh tricky tony clearly meant the fun gang can move faster than light" and not "These are magic lasers that have magical properties such as moving slower" is frankly absurd
Oh my good lord.
I notice we're going in circles...
Why though? The lasers are shown to have the properies of light? why wouldn't they be light or at least an equivlant medium?
Because they move slowly. They're magic, just like the rest of the attacks in the series. Magic doesn't abide by the laws of physics. It's magic. I don't see how interperetting kris as FTL based on this one attack isn't a purposeful misreading of what's going on. Those are clearly ******* sci-fi bullshit lasers like you'd see in starwars that people can dodge.
As already explained...they move that fast BECAUSE we're seeing everything from the POV of the characters not normal humans
As long as it shows simmilarites that stay faithful to the laws of physics that light runs on (which it does) then it can be treated as an equivalent medium
again why is it so clearly not meant to be treated as light speed
