Roronoa Zoro (Post-Timeskip) Vs Garnet (Steven Universe)

[Tots_Real]

Speed equalized

Fishman Island Saga to Dressrosa Saga Zoro

Fight takes place in beach city

 

[Eminiteable]

This is a stomp. From what I'm seeing on her profile she'll just regenerate from Zoro's only method of attack; cutting + everything else like precognition just adds to it.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Not how Garnet's Regenerationn works.

If any attack breaks her skin, her whole body goes poof and only her gemstones remain. Then she regenerates from that. To kill Garnet, you have to break the gemstones.

 

[Eminiteable]

Oh unsure then.

 

[ChocomilkAlex]

Zoro possesses an AP advantage, along with a decent level of Observation Haki and a very good level of Armament Haki. Garnet's precognition is riddled with many instances of PIS and inconsistencies so it's not like she's going to be able precog all of Zoro's attacks.

 

[Eminiteable]

I mean unsure of how here stuff works but yeah I guess I'll vote Zoro for his levels of Haki + armament haki and Asura raising the ap gap and I guess using air slashes to keep a ranged advantage.

 

[Tots_Real]

Zoro:2

Garnet:0

 

[PlumCrayfish376]

Yeah, Zoro has the AP advantage, and that's not mentioning that he can increase it with Asura, his Gorilla technique, Shusui and Busōshoku Haki. Having Precognition just sealed the deal here for Zoro, alongside his range of attack being bigger than Garnet

I vote for the swordsman who always get lost

 

[Tots_Real]

Zoro:3

Garnet:0

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Already been done numerous times, Zoro stomps, he oneshots people several times stronger than Garnet

 

[Tots_Real]

but he's not in stomp range, also Garnet has Statistics Reduction and I believe the other fight that were with wanno zoro not Fishman Island arc zoro

 

[WeeklyBattles]

He oneshot Pica, who is stronger than Garnet, so yes he is in the range to be able to oneshot her

 

[Tots_Real]

oh ok

 

[Tots_Real]

Wait a second, deosn't garnet herself cuasual Rubies who are the once who have the mountian level feat

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The rubies are less than 1/3rd as strong as Pica is by existing

 

[Tots_Real]

1/3rd as strong isn't in stomping range

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Yeah matches with 7-A Zoro are difficult since he can tank and one shot someone who's 834 Megatons just by existing.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

1/3rd as strong isn't in stomping range

It is when he canonically oneshots people 2-3x stronger than Garnet

 

[Tots_Real]

but Garnet strength is from being vastly superior to rubies, being able to hold them like children and competly overpowern one

 

[WeeklyBattles]

That would put her anywhere near Pica's level

 

[Tots_Real]

I believe you meant wouldn't, though wouldn't being able to casually overwhelm character who have the feat be the same as zoro stomping Pica

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No because Pica is 2-3x stronger than Garnet

 

[The_Calaca]

Garnet scales way above the 317 MT feat. Did you forgot, Weekly?

It seems you ignore that similar scaling chains null things like stomps or one-shots.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

It wouldnt put her on Pica's level

This isnt a scaling chain either, its literally just Zoro oneshotting someon with a feat superior to Garnet

 

[The_Calaca]

That doesn't put any scaling chain between Zoro and Garnet.

Both contexts mean this:

• Zoro >>> 838 MT.

• Garnet >>> 317 MT.

Both are unquantifiable above those feats so in Vs Threads we say the difference is similar, making the odds even.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Garnet doesnt oneshot the Rubies

Zoro oneshot Pica

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Plus the Rubies are being downgraded meaning they will just scale to the 317 megatons directly

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Garnet doesnt oneshot the Rubies

Zoro oneshot Pica

Only, she does. She scales above people who one-shot Quartzes, who themselves, are above Rubies.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Plus the Rubies are being downgraded meaning they will just scale to the 317 megatons directly

 

[Tots_Real]

Garnet doesnt oneshot the Rubies

she's able to pick one up and proceeds to hold them like a child, not even being phased by their precence.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

 

[The_Calaca]

Yeah, and as you've said on repeated ocassions, she scales way above that.

But the feat is being discussed and likely getting debunked anyway

 

[WeeklyBattles]

She does but not high enough to warrant an argument of her being Pica's level

 

[The_Calaca]

You used to think otherwise tho

Again, similar scaling chains render things like one-shots or stomps non-existent.

If X scales to one-shoting 100MT character and Y one-shots 200MT character, Y will not be one-shoting X because he holds a similar advantage to the guy he scales to.

Or in other words (that you don't want to read), Yang scales to one-shoting High 8-Cs (I think baseline), meaning she one-shots characters 4x weaker than Bucci who Zoro one-shot. Both one-shot in the scaling chain, meaning that their powers are somewhat comparable outside of the AP difference.

This is a similar case or so I remember you've said numerous times.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

This is not a similar case, Garnet's scaling chain does not put her anywhere near pica. Hell with the downgrade thread she'll be losing the + entirely

 

[The_Calaca]

The rating hardly matter.

Someone scaling to baseline could match someone with a + if the evidence supports him enough, like large scaling chain even without multipliers if the ´+ character has that feat by himself, without scaling.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Werent you arguing literally the opposite in that thread?

 

[The_Calaca]

Yes, you can't use those reasonings for scaling purposes as you can't use the 10x speed difference to blitz either.

However, we use it in versus threads because that's the way we have to draw a line.

One-shoting in both instances makes you unquantifably above such feat. Same work for both Garnet and Zoro here. They are considerably above those feats (Garnet scales way above that as you've pointed out before) so they hold a difference similar to that between the original calced feats.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Garnet is 317 megatons. She is not considerably above this feat.

Pica is 800+ megwtons

Zoro oneshots 800+ megatons

Zero oneshots garnet

 

[Strawboi]

Pirate hunter fra.