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Rimuru Tempest vs Lavos
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@Szmiit What i am saying is that there are infinite lavos in infinite universes, rimuru doesn't have the range to kill all of them at once, which is what is required to get rid of lavos, not even eos rimuru has that sort of range.
And it's a NLF to say he can just create a skill to do that when even a superior version of himself hasn't shown he can do that, velgrynd's space-time continuum attack only gives him universal+ range, not multiversal+
OpMasada answered the second part of your question, the system gave him the ability, just like it gives everyone else their abilities.
And it's a NLF to say he can just create a skill to do that when even a superior version of himself hasn't shown he can do that, velgrynd's space-time continuum attack only gives him universal+ range, not multiversal+
OpMasada answered the second part of your question, the system gave him the ability, just like it gives everyone else their abilities.
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Not going to vote but Base Lavos absorption is consistent throughout its keys (meaning Base Lavos lvl of Absorption is still on TD Levels) so he could absorb a Rimuru just as easily.
If I understand the discussion so far, though and with both having the cloning thingie, this does sound like a "both are stuck here for eternity" sort of situation.
If I understand the discussion so far, though and with both having the cloning thingie, this does sound like a "both are stuck here for eternity" sort of situation.
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"The system gave him that skill (...) after fulfilling requirements" is in my opinion "magically without basically any reason". (I'm not complaining btw, I love OP characters). At every point in the series he kept getting new skills with such a speed that everyone who knew him stopped beliving that he is capable of ever loosing, even when he went up over his class (against Velgrynd & Veldora) because it was obvious that he will find some ridiculous way to win. Unless he is outclassed by several tiers like anainst Milim at start, he has basically No Game No Life level, in universe, plot armour.
@FateAlbane How does his absorbtion works step by step?
@FateAlbane How does his absorbtion works step by step?
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The problem is that by that same line of logic I could throw Rimuru against a character who obviously wins against him and still say he magically wins because "he will find some ridiculous way to win". Characters only get powers as far as their limits have shown otherwise we get stuff like "Saitama One Punches" being legitimate as that's what he does in his verse of origin.
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Rimuru was born from the mana of one of the strongest people in the series and was named by said person, he has a reason to be op.
It's his power growth that's ridiculous cause of food chain, throughout the series he wasn't uncontested, he could be defeated, it's just that he never fought the people who could beat him, if gii decided to take rimuru out before he became true dragon level, rimuru would get rekt.
But he didn't and cause of that his power kept growing due to food chain and having veldora's mana to make his subordinates more powerful by naming them and making them awakened demon lord level thus making himself more powerful, as the stronger his subordinates gets, the stronger he gets. If it wasn't for veldora rimuru wouldn't be as op as he is lol.
Btw also think this match is inconclsuive due to the constant back and forth that would happen between rimuru and lavos.
It's his power growth that's ridiculous cause of food chain, throughout the series he wasn't uncontested, he could be defeated, it's just that he never fought the people who could beat him, if gii decided to take rimuru out before he became true dragon level, rimuru would get rekt.
But he didn't and cause of that his power kept growing due to food chain and having veldora's mana to make his subordinates more powerful by naming them and making them awakened demon lord level thus making himself more powerful, as the stronger his subordinates gets, the stronger he gets. If it wasn't for veldora rimuru wouldn't be as op as he is lol.
Btw also think this match is inconclsuive due to the constant back and forth that would happen between rimuru and lavos.
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@Szmit That's seriously an NLF, and you should drop that line of logic, he isn't gonna magically pull a skill out of his butt that even his eos self doesn't have.
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@Szmiit Varies a lot. Sometimes what it's absorbing just appears out of nowhere (like in a gate) and gets eaten. Other times it's a vortex sucking the target towards it. Other times it just seems to be done passively by being close to it where the target sort of disintegrates from sight.
So I can't say for sure what manner it would use.
I can say for sure, however, that in this key absorbing Rimuru past his cloning mechanics is very likely a no-go from what I've seen being explained here, regardless of method used.
On the other hand, Rimuru pulling of a 2-A skill out of nowhere to kill Lavos across infinite timelines is far beyond whatever capabilities he has shown, though. So I'm not buying into that one.
So I can't say for sure what manner it would use.
I can say for sure, however, that in this key absorbing Rimuru past his cloning mechanics is very likely a no-go from what I've seen being explained here, regardless of method used.
On the other hand, Rimuru pulling of a 2-A skill out of nowhere to kill Lavos across infinite timelines is far beyond whatever capabilities he has shown, though. So I'm not buying into that one.
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I suppose I'll go ahead and vote inconclusive based on what was said above, this is very similar to a reprise of the Lavos vs Meth situation.
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Between "Harvest Lord Shub-Niggurath", "Manas:Ciel", "Space-Time Continuum Attack", "Some Unknown 5D Movement Skill", long battle between the two because clones, and absorbing one of Lavos clones, I firmly belive he has all the materials he needs to craft a "Infinite Universes Range Soul Connecting, Severing And Ultimatelly Destroying Atack" and win. Vote for Rimuru.
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You're... Legitimately trying to vote based on a skill Rimuru doesn't have, and a skill that exceeds his EOS capabilities at that?
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Ah, you're new. No worries, then, you'll certainly get used to these threads later down the road. Welcome to the wiki, and have a nice time around!
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didn`t someone say that absrobing lavos was a bad ideaGLHF22 said:
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actually if he absrobed lavos he could gain powers to prema kill all the lavos
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I like how some people say Rimuru could definitely absorb Lavos and gain even its statistics or tiers that go above his EOS while simultaneously ignoring that Lavos' own absorption is "2-A, possibly High 2-A" in potency.
That's some god tier logic to try and say Rimuru wins against all odds instead of both being stuck here forever which is a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more likely result.
That's some god tier logic to try and say Rimuru wins against all odds instead of both being stuck here forever which is a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more likely result.
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I'm still sticking with my flea, btw. Time's gonna pass, and Lavos will become 2-A eventually. It's not an outside effect and happens "naturally" so it's only a matter of time before Lavos eats all of existence and nonexistence, taking out Rimuru for good.
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Cal for lavos' reasons
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Just because people kept insisting on this, I change my vote to Lavos via this.The real cal howard said:
Lavos eventually becomes 2-A since 2-A (or even 1-A) growth isn't restricted in threads anymore, thus it stalemates Rimuru long enough for that to happen and them it wins by nuking everything.
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Edit: No wait, this is 5-A Lavos, Cal, not DD. How does that happen?
Leaving my vote at inconclusive for the timebeing.
Leaving my vote at inconclusive for the timebeing.
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He needs to put every single alternate of Lavos down, across the infinite multiverse.
It would be like me telling you to take out all the grains of sand in a desert, except the desert has infinite grains of sand and there are tons of grains outside your reach in other universes so even if you could take them one after another, you would be stuck rinse/repeating that process unto eternity and that's without mentioning that the grains will fight back with hax of their own.
It would be like me telling you to take out all the grains of sand in a desert, except the desert has infinite grains of sand and there are tons of grains outside your reach in other universes so even if you could take them one after another, you would be stuck rinse/repeating that process unto eternity and that's without mentioning that the grains will fight back with hax of their own.
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Huh. I though this was a tier 2 battle lol.
Eh, Lavos still absorbs a Rimuru (especially given how much he looks like Schala) and eventually becomes the Dream and then the Time Devourer from it, so I keep my vote.
Eh, Lavos still absorbs a Rimuru (especially given how much he looks like Schala) and eventually becomes the Dream and then the Time Devourer from it, so I keep my vote.
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@Szmiit We already said many times that that's NLF. Why would Rimuru copy and gain abilities and statistics infinitely above his own paycheck even at EOS, like Multiversal+ range?
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@Cal If there's any match for Low 2-C Lavos which ended in Inconclusive because neither opponent could kill the other, you might want to remove it as with 2-A growth (or even 1-A growth *points to Rein*) being now unrestricted in threads it's only a matter of time before the thing goes that route and nukes everything in 2-A levels, settling the match.
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this is no 2B rimruru it is High 4c RIMURU vs 5A lavosGLHF22 said:
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Hmm
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